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RE: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial
November 19, 2021 at 5:57 pm
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(November 19, 2021 at 5:35 pm)Angrboda Wrote: (November 19, 2021 at 4:14 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Highly unlikely.
All sides involved will believe nothing but "The Truth".
That of course being predetermined ( by all sides ) well in advance of any proof - pro or con.
I'm willing to give Rittenhouse the benefit of the doubt. So as usual, you're full of crap. That comes from being a knee-jerk conservative with no critical thinking skills or brains. Truth
Quote:Highly unlikely.
All sides involved will believe nothing but "The Truth".
That of course being predetermined ( by all sides ) well in advance of any proof - pro or con.
Nah anything but...
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RE: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial
November 19, 2021 at 6:18 pm
I think this case was doomed from the start for the prosecution. The jury selection was lopsided. The judge seemed to be playing defense lawyer and not judge. He stopped the prosecution from using prior acts The judge berated the prosecution in front of the jury. And even if you want to say the long gun was of legal size, Kyle still was not of age to be possessing it, and he illegally transported it across state lines. Those charges were dismissed.
I have always been of the mindset that it is better to let one guilty person go free than to convict one innocent person. But what this judge did set that jury up to do what they did in my estimation. This has very dangerous implications for the future. It basically says to society, if you want to be a vigilante and play cop and shoot people dead, you can.
Kyle was NOT defending his own home town. He was not defending his home. He went out looking for trouble. He wanted to prove what a big man he was. I can see the victims thinking Kyle was an "active shooter". If you point a gun at me and I don't know whom you are, what am I supposed to think? If I think you are going to shoot me, of course I am going to grab for the gun, because I don't want to die.
But now because of these not guilty verdicts, anyone who wants to play Rambo who isn't qualified and doesn't have a job in law enforcement or the National Guard, can pretend to be "heros".
The telling thing about this case, one of Kyle's lawyers basically said after the fact, "I personally wouldn't carry an Ar-15 into that kind of situation."
Even his lawyer admits Kyle shouldn't have done what he did. But why is it Kyle gets off? Does anyone really think that if it were Black Panthers showing up to a KKK rally and a Black Panther killed two people they'd be let off?
My point is, if everyone is walking around in public with firearms and nobody knows whom anyone is, shit like this case is always going to happen. What I do not like, is how white people always seem to get the benefit of the doubt in similar situations?
If one wants to argue a history of "Deputizing" in American history, maybe that is true, but there is no such thing as "self Deputizing" in any case. Once Kyle took it upon himself to travel there, he lost all rights to claim self defense. That moron simply thought if he could flash his AR-15 that would be enough to deter people. But that is a lie. He wasn't there to deter people, he was there to intimidate them.
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RE: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial
November 19, 2021 at 6:42 pm
(November 19, 2021 at 6:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I think this case was doomed from the start for the prosecution. The jury selection was lopsided. The judge seemed to be playing defense lawyer and not judge. He stopped the prosecution from using prior acts The judge berated the prosecution in front of the jury. And even if you want to say the long gun was of legal size, Kyle still was not of age to be possessing it, and he illegally transported it across state lines. Those charges were dismissed.
I have always been of the mindset that it is better to let one guilty person go free than to convict one innocent person. But what this judge did set that jury up to do what they did in my estimation. This has very dangerous implications for the future. It basically says to society, if you want to be a vigilante and play cop and shoot people dead, you can.
Kyle was NOT defending his own home town. He was not defending his home. He went out looking for trouble. He wanted to prove what a big man he was. I can see the victims thinking Kyle was an "active shooter". If you point a gun at me and I don't know whom you are, what am I supposed to think? If I think you are going to shoot me, of course I am going to grab for the gun, because I don't want to die.
But now because of these not guilty verdicts, anyone who wants to play Rambo who isn't qualified and doesn't have a job in law enforcement or the National Guard, can pretend to be "heros".
The telling thing about this case, one of Kyle's lawyers basically said after the fact, "I personally wouldn't carry an Ar-15 into that kind of situation."
Even his lawyer admits Kyle shouldn't have done what he did. But why is it Kyle gets off? Does anyone really think that if it were Black Panthers showing up to a KKK rally and a Black Panther killed two people they'd be let off?
My point is, if everyone is walking around in public with firearms and nobody knows whom anyone is, shit like this case is always going to happen. What I do not like, is how white people always seem to get the benefit of the doubt in similar situations?
If one wants to argue a history of "Deputizing" in American history, maybe that is true, but there is no such thing as "self Deputizing" in any case. Once Kyle took it upon himself to travel there, he lost all rights to claim self defense. That moron simply thought if he could flash his AR-15 that would be enough to deter people. But that is a lie. He wasn't there to deter people, he was there to intimidate them.
Feel better now?
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RE: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial
November 19, 2021 at 7:03 pm
(November 12, 2021 at 6:58 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (November 12, 2021 at 6:40 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: You seem to be forgetting that the third guy he shot was doing the exact same thing - claiming to be medic while packing live iron.....
But.. But....but... THAT'S DIFFERENT!!!!
You know, except for the fact that one guy shot three people and killed two, and the other guy only drew his gun to neutralise the threat of an active shooter and never even got to fire his gun. Other than that, totally identical.
Is anyone seeing the bigger picture? Even if the far right wants to claim they are not racist? If everyone has guns openly on the streets, and nobody knows whom anyone is, and everyone is pissed off for whatever reason. Isn't that like allowing firearms in bars where everyone is drunk?
Maybe if nobody had brought firearms to that event and let the police and National Guard do their jobs, nobody would have died?
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RE: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial
November 19, 2021 at 7:23 pm
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It would be even better if NOBODY showed up at these shitfest soirees - armed or otherwise.
They serve NO purpose.
And to those yammering assholes who claim "these protests get attention to the cause" - just STFU.
Everybody on the planet - except maybe a couple of aliens who got here this morning - know about your cause. These riots do not serve any positive information disseminational function.
They just burn buildings, flip over cars and get dumb people killed.
Edit to add -
But.. But.. But .... FREE TVs!!!!
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RE: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial
November 19, 2021 at 7:36 pm
For the record, no rioting will be happening. There will simply be many people lending "aide" to the local town in various ways.
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RE: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial
November 19, 2021 at 7:37 pm
(November 19, 2021 at 7:23 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: It would be even better if NOBODY showed up at these shitfest soirees - armed or otherwise.
They serve NO purpose.
And to those yammering assholes who claim "these protests get attention to the cause" - just STFU.
Everybody on the planet - except maybe a couple of aliens who got here this morning - know about your cause. These riots do not serve any positive information disseminational function.
They just burn buildings, flip over cars and get dumb people killed.
Edit to add -
But.. But.. But .... FREE TVs!!!!
How the hell are you supposed to have a riot if nobody shows up? People are essential for riots.
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RE: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial
November 19, 2021 at 7:39 pm
(November 19, 2021 at 7:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (November 19, 2021 at 7:23 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: It would be even better if NOBODY showed up at these shitfest soirees - armed or otherwise.
They serve NO purpose.
And to those yammering assholes who claim "these protests get attention to the cause" - just STFU.
Everybody on the planet - except maybe a couple of aliens who got here this morning - know about your cause. These riots do not serve any positive information disseminational function.
They just burn buildings, flip over cars and get dumb people killed.
Edit to add -
But.. But.. But .... FREE TVs!!!!
How the hell are you supposed to have a riot if nobody shows up? People are essential for riots.
Boru
You have a
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RE: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial
November 19, 2021 at 8:13 pm
Quote:It would be even better if NOBODY showed up at these shitfest soirees - armed or otherwise.
They serve NO purpose.
And to those yammering assholes who claim "these protests get attention to the cause" - just STFU.
Everybody on the planet - except maybe a couple of aliens who got here this morning - know about your cause. These riots do not serve any positive information disseminational function.
They just burn buildings, flip over cars and get dumb people killed.
Edit to add -
But.. But.. But .... FREE TVs!!!!
And you are an idiot ....Thanks for confirming
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RE: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial
November 19, 2021 at 8:22 pm
Nobody gives a shit Matilda.
Your words are like a turd dropping out the arse of a diseased mongrel onto a toxic waste dump.
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