The pope is correct. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the most serious sin. Matthew 12:31-32.

Boru

(December 9, 2021 at 10:58 pm)Belacqua Wrote:

(December 9, 2021 at 10:49 pm)brewer Wrote: I don't trust him. Sounds like an out for the clergy pedophiles.

That's not classified as a crime of lust. 

By whom? The priests that are doing it? I classify it as a crime of lust. Normal people classify it as a crime of lust.

But you do not. Care to explain that evil position?

(December 9, 2021 at 10:58 pm)Belacqua Wrote: That's a crime of premeditated betrayal of someone over whom you have a charge of care. It's a far worse sin.

Nope. Neglect over children in one's charge is indeed a crime. Raping them at the same time is a level higher in terms of offense. Defending and concealing the criminals is worse.

Yet here you are defending the criminals.

(December 10, 2021 at 7:32 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The pope is correct. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the most serious sin. Matthew 12:31-32.

Boru

I've heard proddies say blasphemy against the holy spirit is the one unforgiveable sin.

The brothers taught us there is no unforgiveable sin . We were taught that the most serious sin is despair, because the person is turning his back on god's infinite love and mercy.

(December 10, 2021 at 5:11 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote:

(December 10, 2021 at 7:32 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The pope is correct. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the most serious sin. Matthew 12:31-32.

Boru

I've heard proddies say blasphemy against the holy spirit is the one unforgiveable sin.

The brothers taught us there is no unforgiveable sin . We were taught that the most serious sin is despair, because the person is turning his back on god's infinite love and mercy.

The brothers who taught you got it wrong, then. See the verse I posted.

On the contrary, it’s been my experience that people in despair turn to God. Churches have a hard time recruiting people who are already happy.

Boru

I don't understand blasphemy, if god doesn't like what you are saying then let him deal with it, why delegate the job to humans?

(December 9, 2021 at 10:14 pm)Foxaire Wrote: Since he's such a prominent individual, I figure he deserves his own thread.

Pope Francis insists sexual sins are ‘not the most serious’
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/12/09/po...sex-pride/

I love how religion is always slow on the uptake. 

But it is telling, notice he said "not the most serious". He still doesn't like it. It's like saying, " I still hate you, but I won't have you killed, but you are still not equal to me."

There was a time when LGBT were arrested, and murdered, and the church was fine with that.

This is just retrofitting after the fact. Just like the church didn't "officially" on paper, recognize the heliocentric nature of the sun/earth relationship until the pope was shown that famous moon shot of earth until the 1970s.

(December 10, 2021 at 5:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 10, 2021 at 5:11 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote: I've heard proddies say blasphemy against the holy spirit is the one unforgiveable sin.

The brothers taught us there is no unforgiveable sin . We were taught that the most serious sin is despair, because the person is turning his back on god's infinite love and mercy.

The brothers who taught you got it wrong, then. See the verse I posted.

On the contrary, it’s been my experience that people in despair turn to God. Churches have a hard time recruiting people who are already happy.

Boru

Are you saying there is only one correct interpretation of scripture? I think pretty much every christian sect makes that claim. IE that everyone else is wrong.

Catholics are the oldest sect with the most members, so obviously they are right and everyone else is wrong. So there 

(December 10, 2021 at 5:49 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: I don't understand blasphemy, if god doesn't like what you are saying then let him deal with it, why delegate the job to humans?

Great point. I have long since questioned the idea that an allegedly "all powerful" "God" would need human help to defend itself.

It would be like The Terminator soliciting the help to defend him from Gary Colman standing spread eagle in front of The Terminator  shouting "Don't hit my God, you might hurt him."

(December 10, 2021 at 5:11 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote:

(December 10, 2021 at 7:32 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The pope is correct. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the most serious sin. Matthew 12:31-32.

Boru

I've heard proddies say blasphemy against the holy spirit is the one unforgiveable sin.

The brothers taught us there is no unforgiveable sin . We were taught that the most serious sin is despair, because the person is turning his back on god's infinite love and mercy.

That would b3e because it is stated in Mark 3:28–29, Matthew 12:31–32, and Luke 12:10 and varied smattering of Hebrews. But tradionally, in the RCC, even reading the wholey babble was a sin, so what may one expect?

(December 10, 2021 at 7:24 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(December 10, 2021 at 5:11 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote: I've heard proddies say blasphemy against the holy spirit is the one unforgiveable sin.

The brothers taught us there is no unforgiveable sin . We were taught that the most serious sin is despair, because the person is turning his back on god's infinite love and mercy.

That would b3e because it is stated in Mark 3:28–29, Matthew 12:31–32, and Luke 12:10 and varied smattering of Hebrews. But tradionally, in the RCC, even reading the wholey babble was a sin, so what may one expect?

 True enough, up until Gutenberg, then that changed slowly. Not really a problem as long as most of the flock remained illiterate. In most developed nations, universal literacy was not reached until well into the twentieth century as far as I'm aware. 


At the Catholic school I attended, we were actively discouraged from reading the bible, "lest you become confused". I swear.

This was when I was 16 with some  major questions about doctrine.  So naturally I went home and read the whole thing from cover to cover. Being a moderately bright young chap, I soon understood why they didn't want me reading the bible.  I mean, the contradictions  and general bullshit in the OT, then the New Testament.  Finally the Book of Revelations. To this day, I cannot understand how that got into the Canon.   One explanation is that the whole thing us about The Roman Empire, and that early Xians would have understood that.