(January 14, 2022 at 4:59 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Still waiting for @Ahriman to elaborate on what he means by loyalty to his country.

Honoring the original values and intentions of the American Republic.

(January 14, 2022 at 4:59 pm)Spongebob Wrote:

(January 14, 2022 at 4:44 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Let proles do prole shit. I do my own thing. I don't vote, but if I did, I would vote Republican every time, because all of the best Presidents in recent history were Republicans.

Yeah, W did a great job wasting hundreds of billions on pointless wars.  20 years later, both countries are no better off.  What a great prez.  And Trump's tariff war with China has been objectively disastrous.  You don't know beans.

I'm amused when people praise the chump for the tariffs on Chinese goods, when I explain and it finally dawns on them that they are paying the price. smh  And the tariffs won't do any good, since the infrastructure is now in China, and nobody wants to risk the billions to re-make it here.

(January 14, 2022 at 5:28 pm)Fireball Wrote:

(January 14, 2022 at 4:59 pm)Spongebob Wrote: Yeah, W did a great job wasting hundreds of billions on pointless wars.  20 years later, both countries are no better off.  What a great prez.  And Trump's tariff war with China has been objectively disastrous.  You don't know beans.

I'm amused when people praise the chump for the tariffs on Chinese goods, when I explain and it finally dawns on them that they are paying the price. smh  And the tariffs won't do any good, since the infrastructure is now in China, and nobody wants to risk the billions to re-make it here.

Walmart == The Official Distribution Center of the People's Republic of China

(January 14, 2022 at 5:28 pm)Fireball Wrote: I'm amused when people praise the chump for the tariffs on Chinese goods, when I explain and it finally dawns on them that they are paying the price. smh  And the tariffs won't do any good, since the infrastructure is now in China, and nobody wants to risk the billions to re-make it here.

The tariff is a national sales tax.  It also disrupted supply chain, especially for electronic components.  (It was a bitch just finding capacitors.)  Which is why the tax break didn't boost GDP growth above Obama era peak, before falling off, then tanking.

(January 14, 2022 at 5:23 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(January 14, 2022 at 4:59 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Still waiting for @Ahriman to elaborate on what he means by loyalty to his country.

Honoring the original values and intentions of the American Republic.

In which case, Trump followers are the exact opposite of loyalty to the country. They seem to want to have a king.

(January 14, 2022 at 5:23 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(January 14, 2022 at 4:59 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Still waiting for @Ahriman to elaborate on what he means by loyalty to his country.

Honoring the original values and intentions of the American Republic.

Who gives a rat’s ass about original value and intent? 

If a generation is not good enough to define its own values, it is not good enough to be able to tell whether original value is good or not,

(January 14, 2022 at 5:28 pm)Fireball Wrote:

(January 14, 2022 at 4:59 pm)Spongebob Wrote: Yeah, W did a great job wasting hundreds of billions on pointless wars.  20 years later, both countries are no better off.  What a great prez.  And Trump's tariff war with China has been objectively disastrous.  You don't know beans.

I'm amused when people praise the chump for the tariffs on Chinese goods, when I explain and it finally dawns on them that they are paying the price. smh  And the tariffs won't do any good, since the infrastructure is now in China, and nobody wants to risk the billions to re-make it here.

Plus they miss the fact that China and Europe just retaliated with tariffs of their own, as countries always do, which stifles trade.  US Farmers actually lost a HUGE amount of exports during Trump's term because their products were all taxed to death.  What did Trump do?  Why he bailed them out, of course.  Something else Trumpsters keep saying they hate, gov. bailouts.

Quote:Let proles do prole shit. I do my own thing. I don't vote, but if I did, I would vote Republican every time, because all of the best Presidents in recent history were Republicans.

Lol no 

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Quote:Honoring the original values and intentions of the American Republic.

Lol as if there has only been one set of values and intentions in America 

(January 14, 2022 at 6:58 pm)Helios Wrote:

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Quote:Honoring the original values and intentions of the American Republic.

Lol as if there has only been one set of values and intentions in America 

If we were going to go there, I could list a bunch of things that make Washington, Jefferson, Madison and others want to have their names stricken from the record of ever living in the US.  Oh, Lincoln, too.

(January 14, 2022 at 5:23 pm)Ahriman Wrote:

(January 14, 2022 at 4:59 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Still waiting for @Ahriman to elaborate on what he means by loyalty to his country.

Honoring the original values and intentions of the American Republic.

Name some American values.