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[split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
Meh. Life’s inherently meaningless and unfair anyway, right? Quit whining.
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(March 4, 2022 at 1:54 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(March 4, 2022 at 1:51 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You misunderstand how we use and abuse trolls for fun around here.
Sounds like something a good person would do, right? You are so full of shit.

Good god, what gave you the impression I was a good person?  Whether or not I'm a good person is immaterial to whether or not you can show the work for the things you claim to know.  Whether or not you can demonstrate that some statement you've called logically and morally correct..is, in fact..either of those things.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 4, 2022 at 2:07 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(March 4, 2022 at 1:54 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Sounds like something a good person would do, right? You are so full of shit.

Good god, what gave you the impression I was a good person?  Whether or not I'm a good person is immaterial to whether or not you can show the work for the things you claim to know.  Whether or not you can demonstrate that some statement you've called logically and morally correct..is, in fact..either of those things.
Fuck what's logically or morally correct. You're just a bad person, and if you didn't want me to think you were a good person, you wouldn't have been going on and on about the sacrifices you've made for your children, and how you're such a hard worker, etc. You're so weak-minded that you can't even recognize your own moral grandstanding for what it is.
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Bad people can do good things. Another strike against any people are shitty, therefore anti natalism! argument.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 4, 2022 at 2:34 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Bad people can do good things.  Another strike against any people are shitty, therefore anti natalism! argument.
Right, that's true. Just as good people can do bad things. But you WERE trying to make me think you're a good person. It's obvious.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 4, 2022 at 12:20 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Is it really worth rolling the dice, (by having children)? Every new person brought into this world is a person who might end up hating his/her life. Is it really worth the risk?

social programs/advocacy/charity/volunteering are not fundamental solutions.

This question has been pondered on for a millennia. Just read up, man. There's a whole fucking religion dedicated to figuring out what suffering is and how to escape it. Check it out, may be a good fit for you.
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I’m completely ambivalent about whether you think I’m a good person or not. You can read any of my comments as the worlds literal worst person somehow stumbling into decent outcomes. The worse you think of me, the worse for your arguments.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(March 4, 2022 at 5:33 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(March 4, 2022 at 5:30 am)Jehanne Wrote: The use of the word "dissolution" with respect to "human existence" is profoundly disturbing, as it appears that you are referring to the collective existence of Humanity as opposed to an individual human being.
Well yeah, that's what I mean. What would the "dissolution" of one person accomplish?

There is really no doubt that my pathological irresponsibility makes me believe these things, but at the same time, it's not like anything I'm saying is untrue. It's pretty much all true.

You're mentally ill; I just hope that you are not dangerous, also.
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(March 4, 2022 at 2:44 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(March 4, 2022 at 12:20 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Is it really worth rolling the dice, (by having children)? Every new person brought into this world is a person who might end up hating his/her life. Is it really worth the risk?

social programs/advocacy/charity/volunteering are not fundamental solutions.

This question has been pondered on for a millennia. Just read up, man. There's a whole fucking religion dedicated to figuring out what suffering is and how to escape it. Check it out, may be a good fit for you.
And yet suffering still exists. So obviously, that religion is not a good solution.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 4, 2022 at 10:59 am)Ahriman Wrote: [...] I'm not allowed to do anything fun anymore. I can't drink, I can't smoke weed, I can't edge to porn for hours at a time, nothing. It's like God wants me to be bored and miserable.

I understand the appeal of those things. But they really aren't the only fun things in life. Finding pleasure in constructive pursuits is kind of what being mature means.

I think you're right to focus on pleasure, but the trick is aiming it the right way.
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