Posts: 3256
Threads: 179
Joined: April 29, 2012
Reputation:
24
RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 7:54 am
(March 15, 2022 at 7:18 am)Ahriman Wrote: (March 15, 2022 at 7:06 am)Jehanne Wrote: That's like saying that you are not familiar with the curvature of the Earth. (We need a trolling subforum.) I didn't know Nuremberg was such a popular thing. I don't know anything about it.
Your education is sadly lacking (in many, many areas)
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.
Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups
Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!
Posts: 3029
Threads: 12
Joined: October 1, 2018
Reputation:
20
RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 7:56 am
(March 15, 2022 at 7:18 am)Ahriman Wrote: (March 15, 2022 at 7:06 am)Jehanne Wrote: That's like saying that you are not familiar with the curvature of the Earth. (We need a trolling subforum.) I didn't know Nuremberg was such a popular thing. I don't know anything about it.
Nuremberg trials - Wikipedia
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
Posts: 3789
Threads: 41
Joined: August 15, 2021
Reputation:
7
RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 8:02 am
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2022 at 8:03 am by Ahriman.)
Now that you guys mention it, I am somewhat familiar with the Nazis being tried at Nuremberg. But on an unrelated note......81 people is not very many people, chump change really, and people die all the time from all kinds of causes. What makes this particular case special?
"Imagination, life is your creation"
Posts: 9915
Threads: 53
Joined: November 27, 2015
Reputation:
92
RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 8:14 am
(March 15, 2022 at 7:18 am)Ahriman Wrote: (March 15, 2022 at 7:06 am)Jehanne Wrote: That's like saying that you are not familiar with the curvature of the Earth. (We need a trolling subforum.) I didn't know Nuremberg was such a popular thing. I don't know anything about it.
You’re an asshole.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Posts: 33043
Threads: 1412
Joined: March 15, 2013
Reputation:
152
RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 8:15 am
I suppose one has to first value human life in order to understand the issue.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
Posts: 7259
Threads: 506
Joined: December 12, 2015
Reputation:
22
RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 8:29 am
(March 15, 2022 at 8:02 am)Ahriman Wrote: Now that you guys mention it, I am somewhat familiar with the Nazis being tried at Nuremberg. But on an unrelated note......81 people is not very many people, chump change really, and people die all the time from all kinds of causes. What makes this particular case special?
Reminds me of a statement by Lenin, "A death of an individual is a tragedy, the death of a million, a statistic".
Executions are unnecessary and cruel; 81 in one day is, at a minimum, poking due process of law in the eye. By international standards of law, everyone is entitled to due process, and beheading 81 human beings in an afternoon is not due process.
Posts: 3789
Threads: 41
Joined: August 15, 2021
Reputation:
7
RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 8:31 am
(March 15, 2022 at 8:29 am)Jehanne Wrote: (March 15, 2022 at 8:02 am)Ahriman Wrote: Now that you guys mention it, I am somewhat familiar with the Nazis being tried at Nuremberg. But on an unrelated note......81 people is not very many people, chump change really, and people die all the time from all kinds of causes. What makes this particular case special?
Reminds me of a statement by Lenin, "A death of an individual is a tragedy, the death of a million, a statistic".
Executions are unnecessary and cruel; 81 in one day is, at a minimum, poking due process of law in the eye. By international standards of law, everyone is entitled to due process, and beheading 81 human beings in an afternoon is not due process. I'm not a fan of due process to begin with. Criminals don't deserve that kind of consideration.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
Posts: 3256
Threads: 179
Joined: April 29, 2012
Reputation:
24
RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 8:50 am
(March 15, 2022 at 8:31 am)Ahriman Wrote: (March 15, 2022 at 8:29 am)Jehanne Wrote: Reminds me of a statement by Lenin, "A death of an individual is a tragedy, the death of a million, a statistic".
Executions are unnecessary and cruel; 81 in one day is, at a minimum, poking due process of law in the eye. By international standards of law, everyone is entitled to due process, and beheading 81 human beings in an afternoon is not due process. I'm not a fan of due process to begin with. Criminals don't deserve that kind of consideration.
Due process is a means to determine if they ARE criminals, and even criminals are human and deserve reasonable treatment.
I am a criminal, I broke the the law about 6 months ago by driving at 34 mph in a 30 zone, am I not allowed reasonable treatment or consideration?
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.
Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups
Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!
Posts: 3789
Threads: 41
Joined: August 15, 2021
Reputation:
7
RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 9:03 am
(March 15, 2022 at 8:50 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: (March 15, 2022 at 8:31 am)Ahriman Wrote: I'm not a fan of due process to begin with. Criminals don't deserve that kind of consideration.
Due process is a means to determine if they ARE criminals, and even criminals are human and deserve reasonable treatment.
I am a criminal, I broke the the law about 6 months ago by driving at 34 mph in a 30 zone, am I not allowed reasonable treatment or consideration? Nah they aren't and they don't. And your "crime" wasn't a real crime.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
Posts: 4473
Threads: 13
Joined: September 27, 2018
Reputation:
17
RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 9:06 am
(March 15, 2022 at 8:02 am)Ahriman Wrote: Now that you guys mention it, I am somewhat familiar with the Nazis being tried at Nuremberg. But on an unrelated note......81 people is not very many people, chump change really, and people die all the time from all kinds of causes. What makes this particular case special?
After withdrawing American forces from Afghanistan, Biden confiscated billions of dollars in Afghan funds from foreign banks. Then he gave half of it to people affected by 9-11, even though the Afghani people had little or nothing to do with 9-11. Basically Biden stole it, because he could. Some of it he will "give back" to Afghanistan as aid, which we can feel kind and generous about.
Anyway, far more than 81 people will die as a result of having their money stolen during a harsh winter when the economy was in bad shape anyway.
So you're right, in relation to the evils done consistently by the USA, 81 is chump change.
But the 81 in question were killed by Muslims, so it gives us license to get all mad and high and mighty and blame some amorphous thing called "religion." Because it isn't really about morality. It's about us vs. them.
|