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RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 9:12 am
Put the hate boner back in your pants Bel, lol. I'm pretty sure that Jehenne and any number of other people can be genuinely disheartened by mass executions.
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RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 9:14 am
(March 15, 2022 at 6:46 am)Ahriman Wrote: They probably had every reason to do what they did. Saudi culture is leagues different than American culture, their actions can't be judged by American standards.
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RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 9:17 am
The reason there was such an uproar is that the people killed don't appear to have been put to death on charges that warrant the death penalty in ksa, either.
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RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 9:18 am
(March 15, 2022 at 9:12 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Put the hate boner back in your pants Bel, lol. I'm pretty sure that Jehenne and any number of other people can be genuinely disheartened by mass executions.
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RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 9:23 am
(March 15, 2022 at 9:14 am)Jackalope Wrote: (March 15, 2022 at 6:46 am)Ahriman Wrote: They probably had every reason to do what they did. Saudi culture is leagues different than American culture, their actions can't be judged by American standards.
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Sometimes atheists deny that universal moral standards exist. They say that such standards are cultural norms, and bound to vary from culture to culture.
I suspect there may in fact be something like an overall, objective view by which we can pass judgment. But that view is certainly NOT equivalent to "American standards" of judgment.
To show that we're judging things objectively, and not simply by the habits of our own social group, we'd have to define some way of determining what goes, objectively, beyond cultural specifics.
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RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 9:27 am
Maybe murdering 81 people on vague charges, some of which apparently derived through torture....is a good start for the kind of thing that would be Not Good.
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RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 9:39 am
(March 15, 2022 at 9:03 am)Ahriman Wrote: (March 15, 2022 at 8:50 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Due process is a means to determine if they ARE criminals, and even criminals are human and deserve reasonable treatment.
I am a criminal, I broke the the law about 6 months ago by driving at 34 mph in a 30 zone, am I not allowed reasonable treatment or consideration? Nah they aren't and they don't. And your "crime" wasn't a real crime.
If you break the law you are committing a crime, that's what it means, ok so speeding may not be as serious as murder (or insulting a non existant god) but it's still a crime and I still had to pay the fine
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RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 9:47 am
(March 15, 2022 at 9:39 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: (March 15, 2022 at 9:03 am)Ahriman Wrote: Nah they aren't and they don't. And your "crime" wasn't a real crime.
If you break the law you are committing a crime, that's what it means, ok so speeding may not be as serious as murder (or insulting a non existant god) but it's still a crime and I still had to pay the fine
No, not every infraction is a crime. Look up the definitions. Speeding is not a crime, it's a traffic infraction.
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RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 10:04 am
(March 15, 2022 at 9:12 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Put the hate boner back in your pants Bel, lol. I'm pretty sure that Jehenne and any number of other people can be genuinely disheartened by mass executions.
I am disheartened by an execution. No one is deserving of a scheduled annihilation.
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RE: Saudi Arabia executes 81 human beings in one day.
March 15, 2022 at 10:07 am
(March 15, 2022 at 10:04 am)Jehanne Wrote: (March 15, 2022 at 9:12 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Put the hate boner back in your pants Bel, lol. I'm pretty sure that Jehenne and any number of other people can be genuinely disheartened by mass executions.
I am disheartened by an execution. No one is deserving of a scheduled annihilation. The executed ones are being shown mercy, as far as I'm concerned. Life in prison is a far worse fate than death.
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