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RE: A "meta-argument" against all future arguments for God's existence ?
March 23, 2022 at 12:47 pm
I imagine that it would be difficult to get everyone to agree, but if we could - that's probably not the worst idea.
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RE: A "meta-argument" against all future arguments for God's existence ?
March 23, 2022 at 12:48 pm
In my opinion, it's a fantastic idea.
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RE: A "meta-argument" against all future arguments for God's existence ?
March 23, 2022 at 12:58 pm
(This post was last modified: March 23, 2022 at 12:59 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
It's the basic idea that any monotheistic belief system is premised on as well. God is conceived of as the single functionary capable of imposing or providing good order in the world. Any human order is at best subservient...and at worst in opposition. Ultimately, I doubt that we'll ever see a one world government. It seems like an idea doomed to fail by chance, by difficulty, by human nature. Just ask the catholics, right?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: A "meta-argument" against all future arguments for God's existence ?
March 23, 2022 at 2:07 pm
(March 23, 2022 at 12:58 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's the basic idea that any monotheistic belief system is premised on as well. God is conceived of as the single functionary capable of imposing or providing good order in the world. Any human order is at best subservient...and at worst in opposition. Ultimately, I doubt that we'll ever see a one world government. It seems like an idea doomed to fail by chance, by difficulty, by human nature. Just ask the catholics, right?
Without it, I think that we, as a species, are doomed. I hope that I am wrong, but such would go a way towards explaining the Fermi paradox.
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RE: A "meta-argument" against all future arguments for God's existence ?
March 23, 2022 at 2:49 pm
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(March 23, 2022 at 12:26 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (March 23, 2022 at 11:38 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Whataboutism, completely irrelevant.
Please try again.
And, so, you think that it is okay for the Ukraine to join NATO and to have NATO planes, tanks, and miles, both conventional and nuclear, on Ukrainian soil? You keep deflecting. Let me take you back to our conversation:
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You apologizing Russias invasion of Ukraine, by pointing out how Russia was invaded in the past 300 years.
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Me pointing out that, in the same past 300 years, Russia has attacked the Ottoman Empire, several times in order to get control of the very territories that are currently in the news (Ukraine, Crimea).
If you want to apologize Russia for taking back territories from the former Soviet Union, then you surely must accept Turkey taking back the same territories from the former Ottoman Empire, according to your own logic.
And this has ab.so.fucking.lutely nothing to do with Kennedy, Cuba, Nato or Hamilcar Barca for that matter.
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March 23, 2022 at 3:00 pm
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RE: A "meta-argument" against all future arguments for God's existence ?
March 23, 2022 at 3:16 pm
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No justice system we know of could prevent it...and, fwiw...you're making an awfully damning indictment of your god right now.
His alleged divine justice system didn't prevent it either. tsk tsk tsk. Who are you to question allahs plan? Could the russians have invaded if it weren't the will of god that they did?
You're also still talking about free will, I'm still waiting to hear you explain how a person stopped from doing what they've freely willed to do is impossible, either for your god, or in mere reality.
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RE: A "meta-argument" against all future arguments for God's existence ?
March 23, 2022 at 3:55 pm
(March 23, 2022 at 2:49 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: And this has ab.so.fucking.lutely nothing to do with Kennedy, Cuba, Nato or Hamilcar Barca for that matter.
Just so that we are clear, I do not agree with what Putin is doing in the Ukraine, nor do I agree with Kennedy's escalations during the Cuban missile crisis, nor do I agree with the Reagan administration's involvement in Nicaragua, nor Turkey's conflict with Armenia; my list goes on and on. (I also believe that the United States should have allowed the Confederacy to secede, but, that's for another thread.)
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RE: A "meta-argument" against all future arguments for God's existence ?
March 23, 2022 at 4:35 pm
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RE: A "meta-argument" against all future arguments for God's existence ?
March 23, 2022 at 4:38 pm
(March 23, 2022 at 3:00 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: It's not about gender bias, Islam doesn't acknowledge women joining the military in the first place.
This short bit right here is going to be the gem of the thread.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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