(November 26, 2011 at 7:04 am)Shell B Wrote: Really, kilic? This is the second time I have had to link this in one of your threads.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

What about the Arkadi Holocaust?

This is due to their own shortcomings.
The armenians were called "millet-i sadıka" meaning "the loyal people" in the Ottoman empire. Their sudden betrayal and siding with the russians was a shock to everyone. And they also instated a large scale rebellion, and started to attack mussulman villages. The Ottoman government had to remove them from those lands. So they did, by exiling them to Syria.
Of course, ethnic clashes occured long before the exile, and people died even then. This issue is more complicated and debated than you can imagine. We've called upon the Armenian government couples of times to invite historians from both sides to discuss the issue. The armenians have turned us down, and still cling on to dreams such as a "unified armenia" whatever that is, but it certainly involves extorting lands from the Turkish people via means of "reparations". This is not something that I'm making up. The armenian government works towards this goal, and has invaded Azerbaijan to fulfill it's dream, massacring Turks at Xocali and other places in Karabagh. As you see, the so-called armenian genocide is more political than it is a historical fact. Certain so called "turks" who accepted these slanderous lies directed towards the Turkish people have earned widespread recognition, and even a nobel prize for selling out their people to their enemies.

Even yet armenians maintain that they would have been holocausted twice or whatever if they didn't invade Karabagh. That's fucking bullshit. Hopefully one day, we shall parade through Karabagh with out Tughs, once we have driven out the enemy, that's a different issue.

And about the "Arkadi holocaust", I don't think I've even heard of it before, looks like we're being accused of a new genocide each and every year, hurray. And now since you asked, I'll checked it out, and what a "holocaust". The Turks have asked those rebels to surrender numerous times, and they responded with gunfire, after killing our soldiers, you expect me to call it a "holocaust" just because the greeks say it is a holocaust? Hell, I think they're going to call the conquest of Constantinople and the battle of Manzikert a "genocide" next year, I'm sure!
What losers!
http://www.stigmes.gr/br/brpages/articles/arkadi.htm
Sounds like the "real holocaust". Oh my, those poor rebels. And the Turkish soldiers opened fire at them! And they even used artillery to breach the walls! Inhuman.

(November 26, 2011 at 7:29 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: What losers!

You are quite the tosser in the name of Turkey aren't you? The mass killings of Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians by the Ottoman Empire and Turkish government towards the end of the First World War was indeed a genocide.

This is one good reason not to have national pride. Many Brits are quick to condemn the atrocities committed by the Nazi party in World War 2 while ignoring the fact we were running concentration camps in Second Boer War at the beginning of the 20th century.

A quick browse through History reveals every country and every nation every founded or established in the mankind's short existence upon this pathetically small world has blood on its hands. It takes a special kind of individual with a 'head-stuck-up-his-or-her-own arsehole' mindset to be overbearingly ignorant of that blatantly obvious fact.

This whole thread just gave me a big, fat, American, double-cheeseburger headache. I like Greece, personally. Who would ever fly to Turkey when they could visit Greece? Someone dumb, that's who.

(November 26, 2011 at 9:04 am)Welsh cake Wrote:

(November 26, 2011 at 7:29 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: What losers!

You are quite the tosser in the name of Turkey aren't you? The mass killings of Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians by the Ottoman Empire and Turkish government towards the end of the First World War was indeed a genocide.

This is one good reason not to have national pride. Many Brits are quick to condemn the atrocities committed by the Nazi party in World War 2 while ignoring the fact we were running concentration camps in Second Boer War at the beginning of the 20th century.

A quick browse through History reveals every country and every nation every founded or established in the mankind's short existent upon this pathetically small world has blood on its hands. It takes a special kind of individual with a 'head-stuck-up-his-or-her-own arsehole' mindset to be overbearingly ignorant of that blatantly obvious fact.

Sure, you believe what you believe in. We Turks have seen how deep this goes into politics, and we know that none of the other sides have taken any kind of measures to debate this matter in an international court.
If the so-called genocides you speak of are real, let them condemn us in an international court, and make it official that the Turks have committed genocide on the world, because that's what it'll be soon coming towards to.
No self-respecting Turk would ever allow his/her honor and pride to be trampled underfoot by people who obviously think that they can gain something out of this by using the west as a proxy for their deeds.
I personally don't really care what others might have done throughout their history. What I'm saying is, no one can strip us off our lands and money through some political ruse. If they want eastern anatolia so bad, I suggest they mount up a force and try to take it. The greeks tried that, and failed miserably, costing them their whole existence in anatolia.

I am not the person to desert my own people and nation at the first sign of a lie that is directed towards us. Armenians and Greeks are all so proud of themselves, yet we Turks ought to hate ourselves, just like the Germans do. No sir, you cannot pull the same stuff that you pulled out with the Japs and Germans.
The Turkish soul will never die.

Quote:This whole thread just gave me a big, fat, American, double-cheeseburger headache. I like Greece, personally. Who would ever fly to Turkey when they could visit Greece? Someone dumb, that's who.

Well, personal preferences, many people also visit Turkey.
Not that I am to tell people which country to visit, I'd like to visit HELLASS too, one day.
And since we're so keen on trollan, perhaps I should use an age-old youtube tradition in this thread.

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However, I'd like to visit the REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA first, before I visit FOPOG(Greece).

So, in other words, the Turkish spirit will never be exterminated in the same way that they exterminated so many Greeks and Armenians... Sounds to me like the Turks are full of themselves (shit).

(November 26, 2011 at 9:29 am)aleialoura Wrote: So, in other words, the Turkish spirit will never be exterminated in the same way that they exterminated so many Greeks and Armenians... Sounds to me like the Turks are full of themselves (shit).

Looks like "so many" is never many enough.
Besides, talking like the greeks and armenians are so poor, poor puppies that were killed by the brutal Turks...Sure, no one buys that bullshit here.
Armenians are out for our heads, and so are greeks. If they could, they would have tried to attack our country from two fronts, with the help of kurds.
But they know that they cannot best us. So they have laid back and use political means to fulfill their dreams, which will, by the way, never come true.

He is to turkey what statler Waldorf is to creationism.

..and yet ANOTHER thread where Mehmet POO-POO's america and sucks Turkey's oiled cock.

I imagine it will not take long before this thread breaks down into Mehmet beating his chest about military conquests.

(November 26, 2011 at 3:56 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: ..and yet ANOTHER thread where Mehmet POO-POO's america and sucks Turkey's oiled cock.

I imagine it will not take long before this thread breaks down into Mehmet beating his chest about military conquests.

Look at the first post made after mine. I was practically lured into it, and now people are simply saying that I started being bydlo again. I did not even mention America until some guys brought it up, in an equally bydlo way.

If he lured you into it, it only shows your disgraceful lack of self-control utterly unbefitting of any modern military man. Both you and the version of your country's history shows the same lack of perspective, equanimity, and self-mastery, and indulges in the same rude, primitive, goat-fucker style of hollow steppe braggadocio.