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How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?

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How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 16, 2022 at 11:18 pm
(April 16, 2022 at 10:57 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: So? Is that supposed to convince me or someone else?

What do you imagine I'm trying to convince you of?

Here is what I'm saying:

Some atheists believe that raising children in a religion is child abuse.

Child abuse is bad, and punishable by law.

Therefore, some atheists believe that religious parents should be punished.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 16, 2022 at 11:38 pm
So you suppose it's only atheists on the Internet who think religion is child abuse? Or are you just making an assumption that has no basis in fact.

What percentage of atheists do you suppose are on the Internet?

And what percentage of atheists on, or off, the Internet think religion is child abuse?

Is this just another of your pronouncements that come out of your head?
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 16, 2022 at 11:39 pm
Non-religious parents should be punished, too, if they're abusing their children.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 12:53 am
(April 16, 2022 at 10:12 pm)Belacqua Wrote:
(April 16, 2022 at 1:51 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Would you punish/torment religious people, if you could? How far does your disdain for religion go?

There are atheists on the Internet who say that raising a child with religion is child abuse. 

Child abuse is illegal. 

So if they're serious in what they say, and not just talking shit for effect, then they advocate the involvement of the government (like Child Family Services) to intervene with, if not punish, religious parents.
Yeah that's not child abuse.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 12:57 am (This post was last modified: April 17, 2022 at 12:59 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Some of them are - and this has been put to the legal test. Used to be, here in the us - with our expansive ideas about religious freedom, that you could christian science your kid to death.

Not anymore. OFC..atheists can't really take credit for that. It was other nutball christians, juries full of them..that decided not to let some nutball christians abuse their kids.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 1:00 am
(April 17, 2022 at 12:53 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(April 16, 2022 at 10:12 pm)Belacqua Wrote: There are atheists on the Internet who say that raising a child with religion is child abuse. 

Child abuse is illegal. 

So if they're serious in what they say, and not just talking shit for effect, then they advocate the involvement of the government (like Child Family Services) to intervene with, if not punish, religious parents.
Yeah that's not child abuse.

I agree with you.

I think it's a very foolish thing to say.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 1:05 am (This post was last modified: April 17, 2022 at 1:09 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Until you don't - just like any of the people on duty who've convicted parents for child abuse (and worse) despite their religious defense.

Or, hell..Bel..maybe you'd be the lone vote to acquit....but I doubt it. Can you think of any example, among the very serious things you raised...that other people here on these boards had in mind when offering that conclusion, that you -don't- think is child abuse? As it's very foolish, and all........
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 1:30 am
(April 17, 2022 at 1:00 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(April 17, 2022 at 12:53 am)Ahriman Wrote: Yeah that's not child abuse.

I agree with you.

I think it's a very foolish thing to say.

Not so foolish thing to say, actually.

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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 1:35 am
...but if they don't do that, bad juju might get the baybee.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 17, 2022 at 1:41 am
(April 17, 2022 at 1:30 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(April 17, 2022 at 1:00 am)Belacqua Wrote: I agree with you.

I think it's a very foolish thing to say.

Not so foolish thing to say, actually.

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Thank you, I knew that someone here would affirm that they think it's child abuse.
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