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Roe v. Wade is gone.
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 (July 17, 2022 at 6:50 pm)Helios Wrote:(July 17, 2022 at 6:21 pm)Jehanne Wrote: By all standards of pediatric medicine, her risk is higher, and I would be amazed if any expert would claim otherwise!Well in the article I linked two medical experts have claimed otherwise. They make no such distinction. I'm surprised! Please feel free to post a link to that article, if you wish to do so.  RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
July 17, 2022 at 6:58 pm
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2022 at 6:59 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
(July 17, 2022 at 6:51 pm)Jehanne Wrote:It was in my first post #194(July 17, 2022 at 6:50 pm)Helios Wrote: Well in the article I linked two medical experts have claimed otherwise. They make no such distinction.
"Change was inevitable"
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July 17, 2022 at 7:00 pm
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2022 at 7:04 pm by Jehanne.)
At 23 pages, I lost track, but, I will look.
P.S. This was your first post (page 6): "In reality, Republicans have played themselves as Anti Abortion laws never worked before and they won't work now." RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
July 17, 2022 at 7:18 pm
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2022 at 7:19 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
My more general point (as the article also points out) is that no were does the law state age as a medical condition worthy to grant an abortion and if it did then what about all the health risks older women face or black women face or short women face. It doesn't define risk narrowly enough. A person could argue the mere fact a ten-year-old could carry to term and still be healthy as an excuse to deny an abortion. It really is a poorly written law.
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM 
Who created a notion that Catholics are the "normal ones" when it comes to Christians and that they are not fanatics like evangelicals?
Quote:The largest association of Catholic individuals in health care is condemning the Biden administration for ordering health care providers to perform abortions in emergency situations under federal law. Quote:What about abortion for 10-year-old rape victims?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
The catholics are The fanatics who handed the evangelicals their Catholic Issue in pursuit of political power so that they could eventually seat clerics at the highest government positions in the us.
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July 19, 2022 at 1:44 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2022 at 1:45 pm by HappySkeptic.)
The U.S. Catholic church bishops are conservative radicals. However, Catholic people in general are used to ignoring the Church's bullshit. It is the Evangelicals who are latching onto the abortion bans, not the average Catholic person.
RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
July 19, 2022 at 3:29 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2022 at 3:34 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Sure, nominal catholicism. Similar to nominal protestants. Extendable to nominal christianity in total. I don't think that many people are worried about folks who identify as x, while ignoring the bullshit of x. It wasn't any organic latching onto, though - it was a deliberate political relationship in living memory designed to stop the erosion of religious authority in the us government through the decreasing faith and increasing secularization of it's people, including those who would identify as religious.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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Previous username: GUBU God! Theresa, I forgot me fecking trousers!  Religious Views: the Disc's first ligthning proof atheist (July 19, 2022 at 1:44 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: The U.S. Catholic church bishops are conservative radicals. However, Catholic people in general are used to ignoring the Church's bullshit. It is the Evangelicals who are latching onto the abortion bans, not the average Catholic person. Actually the congregation is getting more and more far right, mainly because the reasonable people are leaving, letting the fanatics become the new majority. Happens a lot with dying cults.
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Home  (July 20, 2022 at 2:40 am)GUBU Wrote:(July 19, 2022 at 1:44 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: The U.S. Catholic church bishops are conservative radicals. However, Catholic people in general are used to ignoring the Church's bullshit. It is the Evangelicals who are latching onto the abortion bans, not the average Catholic person. Before I read what you were replying to, I thought you were talking about the Republican party. ![[Image: extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/zf86M5L7/extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg) |
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