Quote:Attila killed his own brother, respected no oaths too and was known for his "fierce (mad ?) gaze". I think it's quite biased to compare him to Mohammed in terms of morals.

Attila was a real barbarian.  Your boyfriend Mo is an imaginary barbarian dreamed up by some desert-dwelling propagandist.

And I certainly am not impressed by the message of any of these phony religious myths.  I thought you understood that by now.

(September 12, 2018 at 8:22 am)WinterHold Wrote:  The basic grounds for any successful debates with a Wahhabi is very simple. Use the Quran only and don't allow the Wahhabi/Sunni/Shiite resort to the Hadith.

Question begging, you're assuming that the hadith is unreliable to defeat the Wahhabis who think it's indeed reliable. 

(September 12, 2018 at 8:22 am)WinterHold Wrote: 2-Bring up the victims and fatalities that fell due to following the Hadith:

fell due to following the hadith.. lol. I won't break a sweat responding to this ridiculous claim, suffice it to say that you're arguing from consequences. That's a fallacy, invalid.

(September 12, 2018 at 8:22 am)WinterHold Wrote: 3-Show him that Sunni Islam and Shiite Islam are perfect religions for any dictator.

If a dictator goes against the core teachings of Sunni Islam, Muslims are explcitly allowed to overthrow him by any means necessary. I think that's enough to invalidate your claim.

(September 15, 2018 at 7:15 am)Jehanne Wrote: Mohammad displayed all the symptoms of temporal lobe epilepsy (as did Paul);

Ah, not this again. You can't compose something like the Qur'an while having a seizure, nor in the postictal period, because that's what the prophet did, assuming your claim is true.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4150615/
Quote :  "Patients with temporal lobe epilepsy (TLE) often have a brief postictal state characterized by confusion and disorientation.".

How can anyone in a state of disorientation come up with the most brilliant piece of Arabic literature of all time ? I'll wait for the answer, so you can help Muslims out of their delusion.  

Because of this, modern orientalist scholars of Islam  (Nöldeke, Montgomery Watt, to name a few) reject this diagnosis. The prophet PBUH's revelations are truly a mystery, and they are overall better explained by appeal to a supernatural cause.

(August 7, 2022 at 6:34 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:

(September 15, 2018 at 7:15 am)Jehanne Wrote: Mohammad displayed all the symptoms of temporal lobe epilepsy (as did Paul);

Ah, not this again. You can't compose something like the Qur'an while having a seizure, nor in the postictal period, because that's what the prophet did, assuming your claim is true.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4150615/
Quote :  "Patients with temporal lobe epilepsy (TLE) often have a brief postictal state characterized by confusion and disorientation.".

How can anyone in a state of disorientation come up with the most brilliant piece of Arabic literature of all time ? I'll wait for the answer, so you can help Muslims out of their delusion.  

Because of this, modern orientalist scholars of Islam  (Nöldeke, Montgomery Watt, to name a few) reject this diagnosis. The prophet PBUH's revelations are truly a mystery, and they are overall better explained by appeal to a supernatural cause.

I stand by my claim that I made almost 4 years ago -- seizures are episodic. When such things were not well understood, all manner of embellishments took place.

(August 7, 2022 at 6:34 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:

(September 15, 2018 at 7:15 am)Jehanne Wrote: Mohammad displayed all the symptoms of temporal lobe epilepsy (as did Paul);

Ah, not this again. You can't compose something like the Qur'an while having a seizure, nor in the postictal period, because that's what the prophet did, assuming your claim is true.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4150615/
Quote :  "Patients with temporal lobe epilepsy (TLE) often have a brief postictal state characterized by confusion and disorientation.".

How can anyone in a state of disorientation come up with the most brilliant piece of Arabic literature of all time ? I'll wait for the answer, so you can help Muslims out of their delusion.  

Because of this, modern orientalist scholars of Islam  (Nöldeke, Montgomery Watt, to name a few) reject this diagnosis. The prophet PBUH's revelations are truly a mystery, and they are overall better explained by appeal to a supernatural cause.

Bold Italic mine....no comment needed.

It's funny how religious people think their books are great works of literature.

(August 8, 2022 at 5:42 am)Tomato Wrote: It's funny how religious people think their books are great works of literature.

I have a much simpler method of ending a discussion with any Sunni/Shiite:

'I'm tired of listening to you. Please go away.'

(Also effective with Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Pagans, and acolytes of the Church Of The Extremely Maculate Inception).

Boru

(August 8, 2022 at 5:42 am)Tomato Wrote: It's funny how religious people think their books are great works of literature.

And it's also funny how religious people are indoctrinated to think that the originator of their religion was a flawless human being. Scientologists think that for Ron Hubbard, Muslims for Muhammad, Christians for Jesus, etc.

This would work...

(August 8, 2022 at 5:55 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 8, 2022 at 5:42 am)Tomato Wrote: It's funny how religious people think their books are great works of literature.

I have a much simpler method of ending a discussion with any Sunni/Shiite:

'I'm tired of listening to you. Please go away.'

(Also effective with Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Pagans, and acolytes of the Church Of The Extremely Maculate Inception).

Boru