(July 24, 2022 at 8:10 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Matt Gaetz claims that migrants are creating a food shortage in the US by destroying monarch butterfly habitats

He better be careful.  He's reaching so far that he is sure to fall over.  Hopefully face first.  

Good lord.

People are going to the desert at night and claim that satellites are alien spaceships because "satellites don't have a light source" and they also apparently don't reflect sunlight.

Then it switches to Dr. Greer (lunatic from the first post) where he is leading masses of people towards the aliens by meditation.

A little throwback to the times when Harlan Ellison talked about meeting with UFO people and he narrowed down the message that aliens are trying to tell us.

Tucker Carlson is doing a documentary on Cattle Mutilations

Today is apparently a big day in the world of ufo freaks because a photo of an "alien spaceship" taken in the year 1990 by some guys in Scotland has been released.

...and it looks like it could be a kite.


Revealed after 32 years, the top secret picture one MOD insider calls ‘the most spectacular UFO photo ever captured’



https://www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/featu...r-captured

(July 13, 2022 at 9:22 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Ah, finally

Quote:House votes to make it easier to report UFOs

The House on Wednesday voted to create a secure government system for reporting UFOs and to compel current and former officials to reveal what they might know about the mysterious phenomena by promising to protect them from reprisal.

The bipartisan amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act, passed by voice vote without debate, is part of an aggressive effort to exert more oversight over an enduring intelligence-gathering challenge that has gained more attention in recent years.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/13...s-00045640

So transparency and people being allowed to report what they observe is a bad thing?



Super interesting that these sightings and picking up of these things on multiple systems is happening constantly, non-stop, probably weekly, but people here of course brush it off because they're too proud and need to wait for the scientific establishment to jump on board before they're willing to. Those at the forefront of new ideas are always called crazy or apostates before their ideas are accepted by the masses. This is just how history goes, so people's reactions are understandable. I don't think it's aliens, but look at fermi's paradox. How long would it actually take for unmanned, self replicating alien drones to colonize the entire galaxy? Not that long actually, when you take into account that they would simply be drones, so hundreds of thousands or even millions of years doesn't really matter in that context. This is why I believe aliens or off world tech should not be lumped in with ghosts and goblins, or gods. Hell, I don't even think it's really possible for there to be evidence of a god that would convince me, because even God coming down and talking to me face to face could just be me in a sim with someone fucking with me. Aliens are not something that should basically automatically be ruled out like some other things.

People like Sam Harris, Eric Weinstein, and other big names are being contacted and told to prepare for a massive paradigm shift, by people that they trust and claim would be a lot more in the know, and I think there's something to this. I don't think this is all one big troll job, but I suppose it could be.

These things are not man made drones, as we know them.


I appreciate you debunking the really silly claims like people calling balloons UAPs and stuff like that though. Those things deserve to be mocked, just like the Steven Greer silliness. These things being debunked don't take away from what these fighter pilots are saying, however, and what their equipment showed, which was confirmed by being shown on multiple devices at the same time, and at times with the naked eye. We can just say, like ThunderF00t does, that what radar and multiple other devices show at the same time is supposedly indistinguishable from magic and therefore untrue because it doesn't match up with our current scientific understanding of the universe, or we can go with the evidence where it takes us. I'm a man of evidence, so I choose to go that route. And even if there is nothing to all of this, it's still a great thing that pilots are able to report what they see without worrying about losing their career over it. Isn't that a fantastic thing? Are you ok with pilots being thrown under the bus and it potentially hurting their career aspects because their eyes were playing tricks on them and they thought they saw something they didn't see, and wanted to report what they thought they saw? I don't see how service people being protected is something to deride rather than celebrate, but maybe that's just me.

(August 15, 2022 at 6:28 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: So transparency and people being allowed to report what they observe is a bad thing?

Or maybe politicians should concentrate on more pressing and serious issues than hunting aliens.

(August 15, 2022 at 6:28 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Super interesting that these sightings and picking up of these things on multiple systems is happening constantly, non-stop, probably weekly, but people here of course brush it of

Hey, you know how it is with atheists, they always pick the wrong Christians, Muslims, psychics, priests, ufologists, astrologers, creationists, theologians, etc. to talk about.

(August 15, 2022 at 6:28 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Those at the forefront of new ideas are always called crazy or apostates before their ideas are accepted by the masses. This is just how history goes,

Ah, yes, the Galileo fallacy.

(August 15, 2022 at 6:28 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: How long would it actually take for unmanned, self replicating alien drones to colonize the entire galaxy? Not that long actually, when you take into account that they would simply be drones, so hundreds of thousands or even millions of years doesn't really matter in that context

And after all these billions of years of conquering the universe, the U.S. government just shushes them and hides all the evidence of them.

(August 15, 2022 at 6:28 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: or we can go with the evidence where it takes us. I'm a man of evidence, so I choose to go that route.

And if there was actual evidence for aliens the scientists would be all over them and there would be a branch of science devoted to researching aliens, but guess what is missing.

Why do people act like the 'U' in UFO stands for 'unearthly' instead of 'unidentified'? We don't know what they are, that's what makes them UFOs.

(August 15, 2022 at 8:14 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:

(August 15, 2022 at 6:28 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: So transparency and people being allowed to report what they observe is a bad thing?

Or maybe politicians should concentrate on more pressing and serious issues than hunting aliens.

(August 15, 2022 at 6:28 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Super interesting that these sightings and picking up of these things on multiple systems is happening constantly, non-stop, probably weekly, but people here of course brush it of

Hey, you know how it is with atheists, they always pick the wrong Christians, Muslims, psychics, priests, ufologists, astrologers, creationists, theologians, etc. to talk about.

(August 15, 2022 at 6:28 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Those at the forefront of new ideas are always called crazy or apostates before their ideas are accepted by the masses. This is just how history goes,

Ah, yes, the Galileo fallacy.

(August 15, 2022 at 6:28 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: How long would it actually take for unmanned, self replicating alien drones to colonize the entire galaxy? Not that long actually, when you take into account that they would simply be drones, so hundreds of thousands or even millions of years doesn't really matter in that context

And after all these billions of years of conquering the universe, the U.S. government just shushes them and hides all the evidence of them.

(August 15, 2022 at 6:28 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: or we can go with the evidence where it takes us. I'm a man of evidence, so I choose to go that route.

And if there was actual evidence for aliens the scientists would be all over them and there would be a branch of science devoted to researching aliens, but guess what is missing.

https://www.livescience.com/pentagon-ufo...ing-office

https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...hind-ufos/

The government is studying UAP and USOs. I said I think it's probably not aliens, but that is not something to be ruled out right off the bat like you and the debunkers do, treating the prospect of aliens or more likely unmanned alien drones as the same thing as gods.

I'd say protecting service members is a good use of politicians time, unless you think these service members deserve to be shut up or fired for sharing their experiences or because you think they're crackpots or something and therefore no longer qualified for the job.

That's your reasoning for thinking that something doesn't exist? Because you reckon that the government wouldn't hide something? Are you for real? The government hides plenty of things. All governments do. If you were in charge of the government, you'd go and just release all of the secrets? Really? I don't quite see what point you were making here, but it sounds like you're just throwing shit at the wall.

(August 15, 2022 at 11:23 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Why do people act like the 'U' in UFO stands for 'unearthly' instead of 'unidentified'? We don't know what they are, that's what makes them UFOs.

No, we do know what they are. At least many on the forum claim to know. They are all airplanes and birds. End of story. And did you even read my post? Did you not see the part where I said they are most likely not aliens or unearthly?