Once we uncover the incontrovertible evidence that Aisha was, in fact, a goat, the whole debate about her age will go away. Female goats - depending on the breed - become sexually mature at about six months old.

So, when it can be proved that the Prophet married a goat, he can no longer be accused of being a child-raping monster.

Boru

(August 26, 2022 at 6:09 pm)WinterHold Wrote:

(August 26, 2022 at 1:13 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's true, child marriage is never directly dealt with in magic book.  Opportunities missed, I guess, but then again..what was god going to say about it when his favorite and bestest boy, example to all men, was fucking a little girl?  

Magic book 100% accepted slavery.  Like fucking little girls, it was just normal.  We've had this discussion many times.  The absurd blanket denials that apologists like yourself make disrespect the actual relationship between slavery and islam, and the difficult nature of tackling that problem for muslims of the time....relatively progressive - even if the reality was business as usual.

You always think that Slaves under Islam are identical to slaves under your barbaric White House.

Our slaves could lead countries:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamluk

Quote:Mamluk (Arabic: مملوك, romanized: mamlūk (singular), مماليك, mamālīk (plural), translated as "one who is owned",[2] meaning "slave",[3] also transliterated as Mameluke, mamluq, mamluke, mameluk, mameluke, mamaluke, or marmeluke) is a term most commonly referring to non-Arab, ethnically diverse (mostly Turkic, Caucasian, Eastern and Southeastern European) slave-soldiers and freed slaves who were assigned military and administrative duties, serving the ruling Arab dynasties in the Muslim world.[2][4][5][6]

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamluk#cite_note-Poliak_1942-6][/url]

Distinguish between "Uncle Tom" and a "Mamlluk" please.

Better: Non-Muslim slaves =Uncle Tom
Mus;im slaves = Lord of The Rings.

Slavery has been and is inherently bad at any time and place.

Would you like if the US attacked your country and wins, the soldiers will break your home door and take your sister and mother and spouse for  servitude and sex?

For all 800 years the Quraysh was the Asian superpower and the 400 years that Ottoman was European superpower, Muslims were slavery.

pay attention:
In ancient times, the level of thought of the elites was low.
If anyone had sex even with a 2-year -old girl,  Christians, Hindus and European Pagan did not say it is bad act! (Of course, the good people  were condemned at the same time, but elits 9f countries  such  Prophets or  rulers were hoodlums and did not understand this is bad act)

Recently, with the advancement of the humanities, scientists have proven sex with child is a bad act.

The fact that Muhammad has sex with a child shows that his God did not know well acts but modern scholars know.
This proves Islam is a bad religion and is anti-human.

(August 27, 2022 at 7:09 am)Eclectic Wrote: pay attention:
In ancient times, the level of thought of the elites was low.
If anyone had sex even with a 2-year -old girl,  Christians, Hindus and European Pagan did not say it is bad act! (Of course, the good people  were condemned at the same time, but elits 9f countries  such  Prophets or  rulers were hoodlums and did not understand this is bad act)

Recently, with the advancement of the humanities, scientists have proven sex with child is a bad act.

The fact that Muhammad has sex with a child shows that his God did not know well acts but modern scholars know.
This  proves Islam is a bad religion and is anti-human.

That’s not exactly right. Almost all ancient societies viewed sex with a child who hadn’t reached puberty as a crime (or, at the very least, seriously frowned upon). Someone  who had reached puberty - male or female - was considered an adult.

Almost all sources claim that Muhammad and Aisha were married when she was six and the marriage wasn’t consummated until she was nine. While it isn’t common for a female to achieve menarche at that age, it’s not impossible. In 7th century Arabic societies, married sex with a post-pubescent nine year old girl wouldn’t have raised any eyebrows. It’s anathema to us, of course, because we live in a different society.

In fact, the three years gap between marriage and consummation is a pretty good indication that Muhammad was waiting for the girl to reach puberty (in other words, to become an adult).

Boru

I do not know who has entered the law in Islam; But Imam Khomeini wrote in the book of Islamic Shari'ah that you can marry infant and infant can be tafkhiz.
Tafkhiz is all sexy actions that are performed before entering.

I do not know who has entered this law in Islam; But Imam Khomeini wrote in the book of Islamic Shari'ah that you can marry infant and infant can be tafkhiz.
Tafkhiz is semi entering and all sexy actions that are performed before entering is permited if girl is only infant.

problem 12 this link.

(August 27, 2022 at 7:55 am)Eclectic Wrote: I do not know who has entered this law in Islam; But Imam Khomeini wrote in the book of Islamic Shari'ah that you can marry infant and infant can be tafkhiz.
Tafkhiz is semi entering and all sexy actions that are performed before entering is permited if girl is only infant.

problem 12 this link.

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Link removed for two reasons: 1) it violates our 30/30 rule; 2) it’s in Arabic, and not enough of our members read Arabic for it to support your argument.

Boru

Imam Khomeini says that if a man hurts his wife's vulva, who is infant or child, he should give to her (price of 1000 sheep or 100 camels) for restitution and sex with that wife  will be forbiden, but he must keep that wife  for the rest of her life.

If infant/child is slave restitution is half.

By the way, the Guardian newspaper has examined the issue with an impartial eye really well.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...isha-truth