(December 5, 2011 at 12:53 am)Egor Wrote: It's unchristian to hate people, not ideas.

Quote:What wrong have I committed?

I wouldn't know. You're not trying to say you're a good person are you?

Quote:As a mother, I can't fathom it. My kids have a xtian father,

Thank God. Otherwise, all they'd have is an atheist stripper-mom. Right? Didn't you say you had been stripping for 10 years, or was that someone else?

Some genuine Christian hate right there. They won't convert to your ways or views so you treat them as if they are below you.

You also just contradicted yourself by hating people through accusing the first poster of not being a good person and the second poster by calling her an "atheist stripper" both statements with obvious offensive and hurtful intent. What was your wording? "Unchristian"

(December 5, 2011 at 1:08 am)Egor Wrote: Waiting for an excuse? I haven't given you any excuse. And if your the moderator, it's your forum. You can do whatever you want.

Yes, you have. Read the damn rules before you jump all over people in here. What about that is difficult? It is no wonder other forums toss you out. You act like a dick.

Now, it is not my forum whatsoever. Any decision I made can be discussed and overruled. For now, I suggest you behave like a grown up and stop being judgmental. Every insult you have garnered in this thread has been earned and the reason for such has been given, as far as I can see. You, on the other hand, have been insulting people from behind the invisible shield of your god. I'm not going to let you be a condescending prick to alei. How she feeds her kids is not your problem. For all you know, their father could be a horrible man and you are suggesting he is the better of the two. I know neither to be true, but you are making assumptions. How would you feel if it turned out he was abusing his kids? You wouldn't be so smug then, would you?

(December 5, 2011 at 1:15 am)Shell B Wrote:

(December 5, 2011 at 1:08 am)Egor Wrote: Waiting for an excuse? I haven't given you any excuse. And if your the moderator, it's your forum. You can do whatever you want.

Yes, you have. Read the damn rules before you jump all over people in here. What about that is difficult? It is no wonder other forums toss you out. You act like a dick.

Now, it is not my forum whatsoever. Any decision I made can be discussed and overruled. For now, I suggest you behave like a grown up and stop being judgmental. Every insult you have garnered in this thread has been earned and the reason for such has been given, as far as I can see. You, on the other hand, have been insulting people from behind the invisible shield of your god. I'm not going to let you be a condescending prick to alei. How she feeds her kids is not your problem. For all you know, their father could be a horrible man and you are suggesting he is the better of the two. I know neither to be true, but you are making assumptions. How would you feel if it turned out he was abusing his kids? You wouldn't be so smug then, would you?

~stands up and applauds!~

Meh. He ran away to cry on his blog. We should just turn this thread into a confessional. List your "sins" until his head explodes in disgust at the nature of . . . nature.

I had premarital sex . . . a lot. I had it backwards and sideways and across the country, in fact. I watch porno, some of which depicts girl-on-girl, damn those sexy, sinful lesbians. Hmmm. what else? I have hated neighbors. I have coveted. I have lusted . . . a lot. Virtually the only time I say Jesus Christ is as a swear. I love to say rigoddamndiculous. I am divorced. I still have sex. I'm sure there is more. I'll get back to you, oh mighty judger of all things atheist. Oh, I would have done all of this whether I believed in god or not. In fact, alei's stripper friends are proof that you don't need atheism as an excuse to get raunchy.

Out of curiosity, what is wrong with rock n roll? I believe the bible has nothing to say on the subject. If it does, I would like to add that I have been to more rock concerts than I can count. I have seen GWAR, Cannibal Corpse, Blood for Blood, Marilyn Manson, Slipknot, Tool, Fear Factory, Cradle of Filth and other such ungodly bands. I went to a White Zombie concert that had strippers for eye candy. It was awesome. You would have liked it, I'm sure. I do believe there is a picture of me here stoned out of my mind outside of Ozzfest. I don't do drugs at all anymore. It was something I got out of my system, but I am willing to lie and say I do if it rankles you.

One more thing:



We don't become atheists for the sex, but once atheist, it is much easier to find really hot women to do it with. Admit it, we got all the lusty looking ones.

Well, first of all, I would never be ashamed to be an atheist, a stripper, or a mom. If I was ashamed, I would have kept it to myself. As far as the atheism goes, I don't feel ashamed to reject theories which can't be backed with evidence. I also don't feel ashamed at all to show my boobs for a few thousand dollars a week. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but I have lots of money. I'd be ashamed to make money off of poor suckers whom I've convinced their money is going to god. I'd be ashamed to be a sheep in a herd. I don't give an otter's cock what this bitch, Egor, has to say about me. He's obviously a disgusting person, so any insult he can throw at me is like an honor, considering the putrid, repulsive source.

My kids don't feed their dad bullshit to make him happy, although sometimes I wish that they would. My daughter is only 5, and she looked at her stupid father straight in the face, and coined a new word I have never heard before.

She said, "Dad! We're primates, not skymates."

My eyes filled with tears, I was so proud. She got kicked out of the church because in Sunday school they were reading parts of the bible and she kept interjecting saying, "Prove it!". Then she proceeded to stand up to the whole class and tell them "Jesus ain't even real."

So yeah, my kids are rational. They don't believe fairy tales, although they do enjoy them for novelty's sake. They're actually quite imaginative, and we play a game all the time where we sit around and think up new religions.

Being their mom is the greatest joy of my life. The whole world could stand up and tell me I am going to burn in hell forever, and call me whore, slut, ass, bitch, cunt, cum guzzling cock sucker, etc... wouldn't matter as long as my kids are with me, and know that I might be all those things, but I love them no matter what..

Even if they turn out like Egor.

(Although, I know I am not, or could never fuck up so horribly.)

R.I.P. GWAR: Requiescat In Partibus, that is.

Oh, and a "fuck off" to the most recent godzombie hereabouts. Perfect xtian behavior he shows, perfect reasoned response he gets.

Now, let me get back to lusting in my heart and in my shorts.

(December 5, 2011 at 12:53 am)Egor Wrote: It's unchristian to hate people, not ideas.

What denomination of Christianity are you?

(December 5, 2011 at 12:53 am)Egor Wrote: Saved from hell. Saved to eternal life.

Since when was anyone in danger of that happening?

(December 5, 2011 at 12:53 am)Egor Wrote: So what? When we call it the Golden Rule, we are referring to the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Except that the golden rule is older than Jesus Christ and even Judism.
Even if your fictional character taught it to his fictional disciples, it's not his, originally. It's a remake of an older, far more entertaining classic.

(December 5, 2011 at 12:53 am)Egor Wrote: How do you know it's false? Were you there when it happened? Were you there when the writer wrote about it? Did you live in the society where the laws were made? What's wrong with children spouting scripture?

Same thing as children quoting Harry Potter as thought it were a documentary rather than a fictional novel.
It's cute for awhile, until the child attempts to fly from your roof on a broom.
Same thing, essentially.

(December 5, 2011 at 12:53 am)Egor Wrote: Thank God. Otherwise, all they'd have is an atheist stripper-mom. Right? Didn't you say you had been stripping for 10 years, or was that someone else?

I'll take an atheist stripper mom over a zealot who thinks that vaccines cause mental retardation any day of the week. One of them works a job people find distasteful to feed her children and the other spends her time telling people to vote for her so she can remove the HPV vaccine because she believes (with no evidence) that it causes mental retardation.
Kudos if you know who the zealot is because she's running for President of the United States of America right now.

(December 5, 2011 at 12:53 am)Egor Wrote: Your kids will say whatever you want them to say. How else, in their minds, are they going to have a bed and food. When they go to their Dad's, they'll tell him whatever he wants to hear. They believe nothing at this point, nor should they be expected to. IMHO.

I don't know if you've ever met chidlren or if you've simply decided this on your own without a factual basis. Either way, you clearly underestimate how capable children are.

(December 5, 2011 at 12:53 am)Egor Wrote: They're five and seven, and you think they're rational?

Children are ignorant of the world and lack the kind of knowledge and experience to make proper decisions.
The ability to make rational decisions is not a skill as it is an inherant talent possessed by most human minds and can exist independantly of experience and knowledge. So, yes.
Because otherwise, children would be incapable of learning.

For example: As a small child that understands what a square, circle, and a hole is and ask him (or her) if he can fit a square toy into a circular hole. Let him take his time and test out the toys if he has to. If he ultimately says "no." Then that child has made a rational and scientific decision based on evidence and testing baesd on a hypothosis with a verifiable conclusion - the whole thing.

Ergo, insinuating that children are not rational is an insult to the entire human race.

EDIT:
@ Shell B and aleialoura
After seeing your arguements and weighing in the deeper meanings of your arguements, I have to say that I am soooooo hot for you two right now.
And yes, yes you do have the lusty... what was I talking about?

(December 5, 2011 at 1:11 am)LarissaAnn Wrote: Some genuine Christian hate right there. They won't convert to your ways or views so you treat them as if they are below you.

You also just contradicted yourself by hating people through accusing the first poster of not being a good person and the second poster by calling her an "atheist stripper" both statements with obvious offensive and hurtful intent. What was your wording? "Unchristian"

I don't hate anyone. I'm just asking questions and trying to keep it real. No one is a good person. Not what's-his-name, and not me. I'm not judging Alei, and she doesn't seem particularly ashamed of it. What's interesting is how defensive everyone is. I think you all have more of a problem with her choice of profession than I do.

(December 5, 2011 at 1:15 am)Shell B Wrote: Yes, you have. Read the damn rules before you jump all over people in here. What about that is difficult? It is no wonder other forums toss you out. You act like a dick.

I'm not acting like a dick. I'm just asking questions and trying to get you to stand up for the answers you give. You (atheists) do claim to be the "brights" who are far more rational than we Christians.

Quote:How she feeds her kids is not your problem.

She brought it up proudly. I didn't ask.

Quote:For all you know, their father could be a horrible man and you are suggesting he is the better of the two. I know neither to be true, but you are making assumptions. How would you feel if it turned out he was abusing his kids? You wouldn't be so smug then, would you?

I said it's good he's a Christian. In fact, I said "Thank God" he's a Christian. The kids need that perspective. Otherwise, all they have is the perspective of someone who's an atheist and chooses to be a stripper.

(December 5, 2011 at 1:39 am)Shell B Wrote: Meh. He ran away to cry on his blog. We should just turn this thread into a confessional.

Do you feel the need to confess to a Christian?

Quote:Out of curiosity, what is wrong with rock n roll?

Nothing. It's a term that generally means a "partying" lifestyle.

Quote:I do believe there is a picture of me here stoned out of my mind outside of Ozzfest. I don't do drugs at all anymore. It was something I got out of my system, but I am willing to lie and say I do if it rankles you.

Seems more like you need to tell me that you don't.

(December 5, 2011 at 1:54 am)aleialoura Wrote: Well, first of all, I would never be ashamed to be an atheist, a stripper, or a mom. If I was ashamed, I would have kept it to myself. As far as the atheism goes, I don't feel ashamed to reject theories which can't be backed with evidence. I also don't feel ashamed at all to show my boobs for a few thousand dollars a week. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but I have lots of money. I'd be ashamed to make money off of poor suckers whom I've convinced their money is going to god. I'd be ashamed to be a sheep in a herd. I don't give an otter's cock what this bitch, Egor, has to say about me. He's obviously a disgusting person, so any insult he can throw at me is like an honor, considering the putrid, repulsive source.

When I called you an atheist stripper, did you think that was an insult? If you called me a Christian WASP, I wouldn't feel insulted. Actually, I don't even feel insulted at you calling me a disgusting person. I agree with you, except for the fact that I have faith in Jesus Christ. That's my saving grace, my ace in the hole on Judgment day.[/quote]

(December 5, 2011 at 2:46 am)Egor Wrote:

(December 5, 2011 at 1:11 am)LarissaAnn Wrote: Some genuine Christian hate right there. They won't convert to your ways or views so you treat them as if they are below you.

You also just contradicted yourself by hating people through accusing the first poster of not being a good person and the second poster by calling her an "atheist stripper" both statements with obvious offensive and hurtful intent. What was your wording? "Unchristian"

I don't hate anyone. I'm just asking questions and trying to keep it real. No one is a good person. Not what's-his-name, and not me. I'm not judging Alei, and she doesn't seem particularly ashamed of it. What's interesting is how defensive everyone is. I think you all have more of a problem with her choice of profession than I do.

It's getting pretty deep in here

(December 5, 2011 at 2:46 am)Egor Wrote: I think you all have more of a problem with her choice of profession than I do.

Nice try. Most of the people here have what we call "social skills." Your interjecting of a falsity does not make it true.

Quote:I'm not acting like a dick.

We could take it to a vote.

Quote:I'm just asking questions and trying to get you to stand up for the answers you give. You (atheists) do claim to be the "brights" who are far more rational than we Christians.

You should not be trying to get anyone to do anything. Furthermore, "atheists" don't claim to be anything. Each atheist can only speak for his or herself.

Quote:She brought it up proudly. I didn't ask.

Yes, she did. That doesn't make it okay for you to respond in such a way.

Quote:I said it's good he's a Christian. In fact, I said "Thank God" he's a Christian. The kids need that perspective. Otherwise, all they have is the perspective of someone who's an atheist and chooses to be a stripper.

And the fact that you insinuate that the latter is wrong, thus insulting alei, puts my vote at "Yes, you are being a dick."

Quote:Do you feel the need to confess to a Christian?

No, I do not feel like getting figuratively or literally molested today. Then again, I'm a little old for you guys, right?

Quote:Seems more like you need to tell me that you don't.

Don't you wish. Wouldn't it be nice if you could have things your way?

Quote:When I called you an atheist stripper, did you think that was an insult? If you called me a Christian WASP, I wouldn't feel insulted.

Don't push it. You know damn well how you said it. Being coy won't help you. Then again, we could comment on the nature of your children's upbringing. I recall you writing something encouraging people to brandish swords against atheism.

Quote:That's my saving grace, my ace in the hole on Judgment day.

It's also why you are a Christian. The idea of an eternity of nothing is extra comforting when people like you say stuff like that. What you're getting is worse than hell. You are going to have a moment of, "Wait, this isn't supposed to happen like this." and then, nothing will ever happen again.