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Supernatural and Atheism
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 (December 5, 2022 at 5:42 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(December 5, 2022 at 5:35 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Yeah but that doesn't change the physical structure of the brain. I don't know about gender, but biological sex is definitely determined by physical brain structure, and gender might not be any different from sex.
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 (December 5, 2022 at 5:50 pm)Ahriman Wrote:(December 5, 2022 at 5:42 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Why do you feel that gender is determined uniquely by physical structure? Do you have a source for this claim? Wrong. Biological sex is determined by genes, not brain structure. Boru
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 RE: Supernatural and Atheism
December 5, 2022 at 5:58 pm
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2022 at 6:03 pm by Angrboda.)
(December 5, 2022 at 5:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(December 5, 2022 at 5:50 pm)Ahriman Wrote: I don't know about gender, but biological sex is definitely determined by physical brain structure, and gender might not be any different from sex. Actually, brain structure is to an extant sexually dimorphous, if I'm not mistaken. And female brains develop fundamentally differently than male brains in adolescence in response to a changing hormonal picture. ![[Image: extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/zf86M5L7/extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg) (December 5, 2022 at 5:02 pm)Lek Wrote: One last comment on this subject. If I can be who I am and identify as whatever gender I feel I am, it reduces gender totally to an opinion. It destroys any solid concept of gender. I've tried and tried to get someone to give a solid definition of gender and all I got was "whatever you think it is". My opinion is to be who you are and be proud of that, but don't try to change the meaning of gender in the process. We can end up with all kinds of destructive consequences such as that giant college swimmer we see posing next to those female swimmers. I feel sorry for those women. More a convention, or construct, if you will..than an opinion. We may know whether we feel like boys or like girls - I know I do, but we don't actually determine - by our opinions or even by facts, what constitutes a given gender in whatever culture we're born into. It's easy to remember. Sex is objective. Gender is relative. Identity is subjective.
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(December 5, 2022 at 5:58 pm)Angrboda Wrote:(December 5, 2022 at 5:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Wrong. Biological sex is determined by genes, not brain structure. You’re not mistaken. But that’s not what Ahriman claimed. Your biological sex determines (to an extent) the structure of your brain, the structure of your brain does not determine your sex. Boru
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  (December 5, 2022 at 5:29 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(December 5, 2022 at 4:55 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Right, so can you change your brain? There’s an easier way  (December 5, 2022 at 4:51 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(December 5, 2022 at 4:26 pm)Lek Wrote: So, basically there is no way to fuly identify what is female or male. According to your definition there is no difference between the female and male genders because they can be anything to anybody. You can be the same full person and be either gender you want. You and I can have exactly the same characteristics , but be different genders. You've killed the whole concept of gender. If it is beyond doubt it's not science. (December 5, 2022 at 9:25 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:(December 5, 2022 at 4:51 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Brains can be gendered; no scientist doubts this. And, so, the Theory of Relativity or Evolution, the Germ Theory of Disease or the Theory of plate tectonics are not science. (December 5, 2022 at 9:35 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(December 5, 2022 at 9:25 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: If it is beyond doubt it's not science. Do you say those things are beyond doubt as well? What if, for example, we find that dark matter is attributed to a modification of General Relativity that kicks in when space-time is sufficiently flat, such as in intergalactic space? If GR is beyond doubt then such modifications would never be entertained. |
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