(December 11, 2022 at 3:58 pm)Lek Wrote: Your definition of gender comes down to the indirvidual's choice. I now consider myself to be of the masculine gender. I exhibit what are traditionally considered masculine traits. Tomorrow I can keep those exact same traits and have a revelation that I'm really a woman. Do you agree that I am then a woman?  If so, are there any distinguishing traits that separate the genders? If not, then how can gender even exist?

It would be nice if you were actually trying to understand the subject at hand.

(December 11, 2022 at 3:58 pm)Lek Wrote: Your definition of gender comes down to the indirvidual's choice. I now consider myself to be of the masculine gender. I exhibit what are traditionally considered masculine traits. Tomorrow I can keep those exact same traits and have a revelation that I'm really a woman. Do you agree that I am then a woman?  If so, are there any distinguishing traits that separate the genders? If not, then how can gender even exist?

Regardless of any physical traits you have, if you decide that you're a woman, I'd be happy to agree and treat you as such. Because whether or not you're a woman isn't up to me, it's up to you. My only role is to respect your identity.

Boru

I think I've achieved what I wanted to. You have all shown that your meaning for gender is totally objective and unscientific. To support your agenda, you are trying to push a made-up definition for gender. Either that or God has enlightened you.

(December 11, 2022 at 6:08 pm)Lek Wrote: I think I've achieved what I wanted to. You have all shown that your meaning for gender is totally objective and unscientific. To support your agenda, you are trying to push a made-up definition for gender. Either that or God has enlightened you.

What you have demonstrated is a Christian upbringing where you were taught that you are damaged and that some being is obsessively looking at your private life as well as every thought so that it can judge you. That left you angry and bitter, and that is why you are now obsessing over trans people trying desperately to judge them, mimicking the imaginary tormentor that bullied you.

(December 11, 2022 at 6:28 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:

(December 11, 2022 at 6:08 pm)Lek Wrote: I think I've achieved what I wanted to. You have all shown that your meaning for gender is totally objective and unscientific. To support your agenda, you are trying to push a made-up definition for gender. Either that or God has enlightened you.

What you have demonstrated is a Christian upbringing where you were taught that you are damaged and that some being is obsessively looking at your private life as well as every thought so that it can judge you. That left you angry and bitter, and that is why you are now obsessing over trans people trying desperately to judge them, mimicking the imaginary tormentor that bullied you.

You're funny. You see pretty angry and bitter.

(December 11, 2022 at 7:01 pm)Lek Wrote: [quote="Fake Messiah" pid='2129722' dateline='1670797714']

What you have demonstrated is a Christian upbringing where you were taught that you are damaged and that some being is obsessively looking at your private life as well as every thought so that it can judge you. That left you angry and bitter, and that is why you are now obsessing over trans people trying desperately to judge them, mimicking the imaginary tormentor that bullied you.
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(December 11, 2022 at 7:01 pm)Lek Wrote:

(December 11, 2022 at 6:28 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: What you have demonstrated is a Christian upbringing where you were taught that you are damaged and that some being is obsessively looking at your private life as well as every thought so that it can judge you. That left you angry and bitter, and that is why you are now obsessing over trans people trying desperately to judge them, mimicking the imaginary tormentor that bullied you.

You're funny. You see pretty angry and bitter.

I am not the one obsessed with the private lives of people trying to judge them like you are. Then again, we have all observed that you love to project.

(December 11, 2022 at 7:20 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:

(December 11, 2022 at 7:01 pm)Lek Wrote: You're funny. You see pretty angry and bitter.

I am not the one obsessed with the private lives of people trying to judge them like you are. Then again, we have all observed that you love to project.

(December 11, 2022 at 8:38 pm)Lek Wrote:

(December 11, 2022 at 7:20 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: I am not the one obsessed with the private lives of people trying to judge them like you are. Then again, we have all observed that you love to project.

C'mon you've been doing the same to Christians for years.

(December 11, 2022 at 6:08 pm)Lek Wrote: I think I've achieved what I wanted to. You have all shown that your meaning for gender is totally objective and unscientific. To support your agenda, you are trying to push a made-up definition for gender. Either that or God has enlightened you.

It comes down to monism, the dominant scientific perspective that brains give rise to minds; no brain, no mind. When your brain dies, you cease to exist. No afterlife; death is an endless, dreamers sleep.

With this perspective in mind, some biological men have brains that are more typical of biological women than they are of their sex at birth. In other words, brains can be gendered, which means that a biological man or woman can have a mind that is not that of their biological sex.

You do not have to agree with monism (I suspect that you, as a professing Christian, do not), but this is the perspective of modern science.