(December 18, 2022 at 5:03 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: escalating things like this?

Like what? It is already escalated.

(December 18, 2022 at 5:03 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Did the US give Ukraine permission to strike the air bases inside of Russia? Does anyone think this is actually a smart idea, escalating things like this?

At least noone invaded Russia, you know, like Russia invaded Ukraine. Boy, THAT was an escalation, i tell ya. A fucking YUGE escalation. Talking about escalations: Switching to war crimes predominantely, like attacking the ukraininan power grid, oh boy, another fucking MASSIVE escalation. All these escalations were fucking massive i say, especially compared to the minor one of annexing Crimea, aka. foreign territory. That wasnt much of an escalation.

And now....Fuck off

(December 18, 2022 at 5:03 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Did the US give Ukraine permission to strike the air bases inside of Russia? Does anyone think this is actually a smart idea, escalating things like this?

I don’t think Ukraine asked for permission (I have no evidence either way, it just seems unlikely).

The struck bases inside Russia are launching points for Russian attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure - roads, bridges, hospitals, power stations, etc - and are therefore legitimate military targets. This is not escalation, this is self defense.

Boru

(December 18, 2022 at 5:52 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 18, 2022 at 5:03 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Did the US give Ukraine permission to strike the air bases inside of Russia? Does anyone think this is actually a smart idea, escalating things like this?

I don’t think Ukraine asked for permission (I have no evidence either way, it just seems unlikely).

I think someone who told the US that "i need ammo, not a ride", wont ask the US for permission for anything in the foreseeable future.
In any case that would be less of an escalation than pressuring Belarus into invading Ukraine as well. That would be....hold on, ANOTHER MASSIVE FUCKING ESCALATION.

If someone punches you in the face and you respond by kicking him in the balls, you haven’t ‘escalated’ anything.

Boru

(December 18, 2022 at 5:07 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Is the US the boss of Ukraine?

Well, the West told Ukraine that they weren't allowed to take a peace deal months back. I'm just wondering if the US or NATO is escalating to the point where they're perfectly fine with WW3, or if it's just Zelenskyy who is becoming more of an irrational actor, first by lying to the world and trying to drag them further into the war by accusing Russia of letting their bombs hit Poland, and now going deeper into Russia to attack the nuclear triad. Attacking the nuclear triad raises tensions significantly.

(December 18, 2022 at 5:47 am)Deesse23 Wrote:

(December 18, 2022 at 5:03 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Did the US give Ukraine permission to strike the air bases inside of Russia? Does anyone think this is actually a smart idea, escalating things like this?

At least noone invaded Russia, you know, like Russia invaded Ukraine. Boy, THAT was an escalation, i tell ya. A fucking YUGE escalation. Talking about escalations: Switching to war crimes predominantely, like attacking the ukraininan power grid, oh boy, another fucking MASSIVE escalation. All these escalations were fucking massive i say, especially compared to the minor one of annexing Crimea, aka. foreign territory. That wasnt much of an escalation.

And now....Fuck off

Ukraine doesn't have nukes therefore they don't get to do what Russia gets to do. Any highschooler knows this. Catch up.

(December 18, 2022 at 5:52 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 18, 2022 at 5:03 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Did the US give Ukraine permission to strike the air bases inside of Russia? Does anyone think this is actually a smart idea, escalating things like this?

I don’t think Ukraine asked for permission (I have no evidence either way, it just seems unlikely).

The struck bases inside Russia are launching points for Russian attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure - roads, bridges, hospitals, power stations, etc - and are therefore legitimate military targets. This is not escalation, this is self defense.

Boru

Legitimate or not, it makes nuclear warfare far more likely, so I'd say Zelenskyy better quit it and be a good boy.

(December 18, 2022 at 6:38 am)Deesse23 Wrote:

(December 18, 2022 at 5:52 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I don’t think Ukraine asked for permission (I have no evidence either way, it just seems unlikely).

I think someone who told the US that "i need ammo, not a ride", wont ask the US for permission for anything in the foreseeable future.
In any case that would be less of an escalation than pressuring Belarus into invading Ukraine as well. That would be....hold on, ANOTHER MASSIVE FUCKING ESCALATION.

Still, by continuing to finance the war, whether the US gave permission or not, they are culpable by continuing to send Ukraine weapons, and Russia is justified if they held the position that they are at war with the United States and NATO, and therefore NATO basically attacked their nuclear triad. Not good at all. Tensions were bad enough before, but now NATO is either condoning or giving permission directly for attacks on Russian bases.

(December 18, 2022 at 7:45 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Well, the West told Ukraine that they weren't allowed to take a peace deal months back.

Well, you are lying, again.

https://internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article7852