(December 29, 2022 at 9:29 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(December 29, 2022 at 8:48 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Not following you...

I don't believe that people "discover" their sexuality upon meeting the "right" same-sex individual; rather, one's sexual orientation and/or identity is known prior to that.

Is my position at least clear?

Crystal.

The set of people who prefer individuals of the same sex before sexual experimentation has no intersection with the set of people who prefer individuals of the same sex only after sexual experimentation, and the latter is an empty set.

(December 30, 2022 at 11:43 am)LinuxGal Wrote:

(December 29, 2022 at 9:29 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I don't believe that people "discover" their sexuality upon meeting the "right" same-sex individual; rather, one's sexual orientation and/or identity is known prior to that.

Is my position at least clear?

Crystal.

The set of people who prefer individuals of the same sex before sexual experimentation has no intersection with the set of people who prefer individuals of the same sex only after sexual experimentation, and the latter is an empty set.

I never claimed such an absolutist, rigid point of view. All that I am claiming is that most human beings understand their sexual identity and/or orientation post puberty, although, no doubt there are exceptions to this.

(December 29, 2022 at 9:29 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(December 29, 2022 at 8:48 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Not following you...

I don't believe that people "discover" their sexuality upon meeting the "right" same-sex individual; rather, one's sexual orientation and/or identity is known prior to that.

Is my position at least clear?

Thanks.

One tactic I'm seeing more from Homophobes and Transphobes now is the idea of blaming them for the violence against them. Generally, they try and use the fact LGBT people are over-represented in addiction and sex work to try and argue that involvement in those activities accounts for all or at least the majority of violence against them. The issue with this is I have yet to find a study linking this as the majority cause of LGBTQ violence. A sub-argument pulled by people who use this line of reason is that involvement with sex work and drugs somehow means LGBTQ are not oppressed even though those are very activities one would expect an oppressed group to be involved with.


Another terrible argument is the claim that most violence against LGBTQ people is committed by LGBTQ people. I have yet to find a study proving this. There is the fact domestic violence among LGBT couples is higher but does this accounts as even a significant factor in the overall violence of LGBT people remains unproven as for as i can tell.

(December 31, 2022 at 5:25 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:

Fun fact: That's literally a plot point in the movie Election.

Whenever a rightwinger uses the fictional  term "Gender Ideology" they are essentially doing the same thing Nazis did when they used the term "International Jewery" It's a way of hating Transpeople by cloaking it in opposition to a philosophy rather than a people.

The Term Super Straight is just Transphobia under the guise of gender identity. You don't have to date Transpeople but you also don't need to define yourself by it and would only do so to be a dick about it.

Boru