Sesame seeds are the answer.

(April 2, 2023 at 8:41 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: All vegetarians are at higher risk for iron deficiency, Flat. That's the main thing to weigh or manage in light of whatever benefit you hope to extract from a vegetarian diet. Semi vegetarians less so because of that semi bit. I do love the word semi vegetarian, though. A beef burrito with cheese is my favorite semi vegetarian dish.

Even if that's true, avoiding heme iron still seems like a good deal to me. People rarely die of anemia, but people commonly die of colon cancer. So having a slightly increased risk of anemia in order to have a slightly lower risk of colon cancer seems like a good thing.

By semi-vegetarians, I meant people who avoid red meat.

(April 2, 2023 at 12:13 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(April 2, 2023 at 8:41 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: All vegetarians are at higher risk for iron deficiency, Flat.  That's the main thing to weigh or manage in light of whatever benefit you hope to extract from a vegetarian diet.  Semi vegetarians less so because of that semi bit.  I do love the word semi vegetarian, though.  A beef burrito with cheese is my favorite semi vegetarian dish.

Even if that's true, avoiding heme iron still seems like a good deal to me. People rarely die of anemia, but people commonly die of colon cancer. So having a slightly increased risk of anemia in order to have a slightly lower risk of colon cancer seems like a good thing.

By semi-vegetarians, I meant people who avoid red meat.

Death is not the only issue with anemia you nitwit.

Having enough healthy red blood cells means that your organs get the oxygen they need.

Oxygen tends to be sort of important to your overall health.

(April 2, 2023 at 12:13 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(April 2, 2023 at 8:41 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: All vegetarians are at higher risk for iron deficiency, Flat.  That's the main thing to weigh or manage in light of whatever benefit you hope to extract from a vegetarian diet.  Semi vegetarians less so because of that semi bit.  I do love the word semi vegetarian, though.  A beef burrito with cheese is my favorite semi vegetarian dish.

Even if that's true, avoiding heme iron still seems like a good deal to me. People rarely die of anemia, but people commonly die of colon cancer. So having a slightly increased risk of anemia in order to have a slightly lower risk of colon cancer seems like a good thing.

By semi-vegetarians, I meant people who avoid red meat.

If I only eat cows that avoids eating red meat, am I a quarter vegetarian?

(April 2, 2023 at 8:41 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I do love the word semi vegetarian, though.  A beef burrito with cheese is my favorite semi vegetarian dish.

Right? It seems to me we already have a word for people who avoid beef but not other meat. The word is "omnivore".

(April 2, 2023 at 12:19 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(April 2, 2023 at 12:13 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: Even if that's true, avoiding heme iron still seems like a good deal to me. People rarely die of anemia, but people commonly die of colon cancer. So having a slightly increased risk of anemia in order to have a slightly lower risk of colon cancer seems like a good thing.

By semi-vegetarians, I meant people who avoid red meat.

Death is not the only issue with anemia you nitwit.

Having enough healthy red blood cells means that your organs get the oxygen they need.

Oxygen tends to be sort of important to your overall health.

Then we must have a very different definition of a healthy diet. By "healthy diet", I mean one that reduces overall mortality.

(April 2, 2023 at 10:55 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(April 2, 2023 at 12:19 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Death is not the only issue with anemia you nitwit.

Having enough healthy red blood cells means that your organs get the oxygen they need.

Oxygen tends to be sort of important to your overall health.

Then we must have a very different definition of a healthy diet. By "healthy diet", I mean one that reduces overall mortality.

So you don't think the proper distribution of oxygen throughout the body is important?

(April 2, 2023 at 10:55 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:

(April 2, 2023 at 12:19 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Death is not the only issue with anemia you nitwit.

Having enough healthy red blood cells means that your organs get the oxygen they need.

Oxygen tends to be sort of important to your overall health.

Then we must have a very different definition of a healthy diet. By "healthy diet", I mean one that reduces overall mortality.

Overall mortality is, was, and willing likely always be 100% and can’t be reduced any diet.  

(April 2, 2023 at 11:06 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(April 2, 2023 at 10:55 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: Then we must have a very different definition of a healthy diet. By "healthy diet", I mean one that reduces overall mortality.

So you don't think the proper distribution of oxygen throughout the body is important?

Look, anemia caused by lack of iron is rare and is almost never deadly. Attempting to decrease the chance of getting it with something that increases your chance of getting cancer by 7%, particularly the colon cancer which has only 50% survival rate, is irrational.

(April 2, 2023 at 11:08 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(April 2, 2023 at 10:55 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: Then we must have a very different definition of a healthy diet. By "healthy diet", I mean one that reduces overall mortality.

Overall mortality is, was, and willing likely always be 100% and can’t be reduced any diet.  

Overall mortality in some time period, of course. How do you determine that smoking is overall unhealthy, in spite of the anti-inflammatory effects of nicotine?