(May 25, 2023 at 3:45 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: If Jane Fonda was a black man, IA would be defending her/him.

Wait, Jane Fonda ain't a black man?!

Ultimately, that’s our bind. There are plenty of people who probably aren’t willing to kill if voting and protest don’t work… and another group of people who promise to kill if voting and protest does work.

Jane Fonda famously reversed herself from a recruiting pinup girl to a peace activist, she was sure that people wouldn’t go to war if they knew the truth. She suggested that we were t raised to be killers. Maybe, later life, she’s been disabused of that youthful belief.

Jane Fonda has always been a bit of a nut in her activism. I really don't care what she thinks or says.

I think the time to worry about the Fondanistas is when they organize into paramilitary groups and start training to fight us forces and suppress us citizens while amassing the worlds largest collection of private arms.

(May 26, 2023 at 11:13 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I think the time to worry about the Fondanistas is when they organize into paramilitary groups and start training to fight us forces and suppress us citizens while amassing the worlds largest collection of private arms.

Butwaitaminute....

We already have groups like that in the USA...

Whether one agrees with her politics or not, there’s something impressive about an 85 year old cancer survivor who - apparently - has enough moxie to assemble a team of shadowy assassins to take out people who disagree with her on reproductive rights.

Equally impressive is that not ONE of the hundreds of murders of pro-life politicians has been linked to her.

Boru

(May 26, 2023 at 4:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Whether one agrees with her politics or not, there’s something impressive about an 85 year old cancer survivor who - apparently - has enough moxie to assemble a team of shadowy assassins to take out people who disagree with her on reproductive rights.

Equally impressive is that not ONE of the hundreds of murders of pro-life politicians has been linked to her.

Boru

https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/homepage2...index.html  Not linked to her but a Bernie supporter shooting a Repub politician. It happens. Happens more with righties but still one in millions and is waaay overblown. Biden only made it the focus of his campaign at first to virtue signal for votes. The same way he was forced to pick Kamala even though he can't stand the woman and she's a dog shit politician. Sure, it's sad that Heather Heyer was run over by a guy at Unite the Right, and that's a tragedy for her family and friends, but let's be real. Thousands of people die per day, and their deaths mean no less. We choose to hyper focus on one, for years on end, for political gain. Dylan Roof, etc. He's always the one example people bring up. We fear monger about a one in millions event, to win over voters with fear. That's all. Black Americans attack Jews at temple and no one makes a peep about it, because that's not in line with their political agenda, so no need to bring it up. How many white militias have actually gone on the attack? Any? The black militias? They're behaving themselves too. How many pro-gun rallies ever end up with shooting involved? Barely ever?

And my point of posting the Jane clip was to show people here that their immediate reaction to a comment like that, like the come and take it comments from gun owners, would be vastly different, and I think I proved that when at least 4 posters agreed with her comments, and there wasn't much condemnation, even from me, as I give her a bit of a pass.

Notice how Nudge refused to define terrorist for me after I asked. Millions of Americans are against immigration from the South of the US, or from Muslim nations. That could be enough to classify someone as white nationalist. So, are they all on the government kill list, in Nudge's ideal America? I just want to know what a terrorist actually is, because in the good ol USA, they can't just stop these attacks without first knowing that an attack is being planned. Nudge seems to be in favour of pre-crime or thought crime. Some Minority Report shit, it seems. Even the serial killer Dexter Morgan had a code where he had to get proof of his victims crimes before he did his serial killer thing. Do I qualify as a terrorist? Am I on the kill list too? What's it take to get on that list?

https://www.cato.org/blog/poll-72-americ...ady%20here.

Damn. Only 55 % support a pathway to citizenship for the undocumented. How many people on the other side of that issue would Nudge call terrorists?

(May 28, 2023 at 4:18 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:

(May 26, 2023 at 4:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Whether one agrees with her politics or not, there’s something impressive about an 85 year old cancer survivor who - apparently - has enough moxie to assemble a team of shadowy assassins to take out people who disagree with her on reproductive rights.

Equally impressive is that not ONE of the hundreds of murders of pro-life politicians has been linked to her.

Boru

https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/homepage2...index.html  Not linked to her but a Bernie supporter shooting a Repub politician. It happens. Happens more with righties but still one in millions and is waaay overblown. Biden only made it the focus of his campaign at first to virtue signal for votes. The same way he was forced to pick Kamala even though he can't stand the woman and she's a dog shit politician. Sure, it's sad that Heather Heyer was run over by a guy at Unite the Right, and that's a tragedy for her family and friends, but let's be real. Thousands of people die per day, and their deaths mean no less. We choose to hyper focus on one, for years on end, for political gain. Dylan Roof, etc. He's always the one example people bring up. We fear monger about a one in millions event, to win over voters with fear. That's all. Black Americans attack Jews at temple and no one makes a peep about it, because that's not in line with their political agenda, so no need to bring it up. How many white militias have actually gone on the attack? Any? The black militias? They're behaving themselves too. How many pro-gun rallies ever end up with shooting involved? Barely ever?

And my point of posting the Jane clip was to show people here that their immediate reaction to a comment like that, like the come and take it comments from gun owners, would be vastly different, and I think I proved that when at least 4 posters agreed with her comments, and there wasn't much condemnation, even from me, as I give her a bit of a pass.

Notice how Nudge refused to define terrorist for me after I asked. Millions of Americans are against immigration from the South of the US, or from Muslim nations. That could be enough to classify someone as white nationalist. So, are they all on the government kill list, in Nudge's ideal America? I just want to know what a terrorist actually is, because in the good ol USA, they can't just stop these attacks without first knowing that an attack is being planned. Nudge seems to be in favour of pre-crime or thought crime. Some Minority Report shit, it seems. Even the serial killer Dexter Morgan had a code where he had to get proof of his victims crimes before he did his serial killer thing. Do I qualify as a terrorist? Am I on the kill list too? What's it take to get on that list?

https://www.cato.org/blog/poll-72-americ...ady%20here.

Damn. Only 55 % support a pathway to citizenship for the undocumented. How many people on the other side of that issue would Nudge call terrorists?

None of which has fuck all to do with your claim that Jane Fonda seriously supports murdering people.

Boru

(May 28, 2023 at 4:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(May 28, 2023 at 4:18 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/homepage2...index.html  Not linked to her but a Bernie supporter shooting a Repub politician. It happens. Happens more with righties but still one in millions and is waaay overblown. Biden only made it the focus of his campaign at first to virtue signal for votes. The same way he was forced to pick Kamala even though he can't stand the woman and she's a dog shit politician. Sure, it's sad that Heather Heyer was run over by a guy at Unite the Right, and that's a tragedy for her family and friends, but let's be real. Thousands of people die per day, and their deaths mean no less. We choose to hyper focus on one, for years on end, for political gain. Dylan Roof, etc. He's always the one example people bring up. We fear monger about a one in millions event, to win over voters with fear. That's all. Black Americans attack Jews at temple and no one makes a peep about it, because that's not in line with their political agenda, so no need to bring it up. How many white militias have actually gone on the attack? Any? The black militias? They're behaving themselves too. How many pro-gun rallies ever end up with shooting involved? Barely ever?

And my point of posting the Jane clip was to show people here that their immediate reaction to a comment like that, like the come and take it comments from gun owners, would be vastly different, and I think I proved that when at least 4 posters agreed with her comments, and there wasn't much condemnation, even from me, as I give her a bit of a pass.

Notice how Nudge refused to define terrorist for me after I asked. Millions of Americans are against immigration from the South of the US, or from Muslim nations. That could be enough to classify someone as white nationalist. So, are they all on the government kill list, in Nudge's ideal America? I just want to know what a terrorist actually is, because in the good ol USA, they can't just stop these attacks without first knowing that an attack is being planned. Nudge seems to be in favour of pre-crime or thought crime. Some Minority Report shit, it seems. Even the serial killer Dexter Morgan had a code where he had to get proof of his victims crimes before he did his serial killer thing. Do I qualify as a terrorist? Am I on the kill list too? What's it take to get on that list?

https://www.cato.org/blog/poll-72-americ...ady%20here.

Damn. Only 55 % support a pathway to citizenship for the undocumented. How many people on the other side of that issue would Nudge call terrorists?

None of which has fuck all to do with your claim that Jane Fonda seriously supports murdering people.

Boru

You expected IA to not go on an unhinged rants where he says a great deal of nothing?

The Bernie Bro only got one? Shame.

If you don’t know what a terrorist is and can’t -immediately- think of at least one example where ws militias went on the attack….then you probably don’t have any business commenting on either thing.

I’d normally tell you to let wonder lead you to knowledge, but it’s clear that wonder never leads you anywhere but a reich wing gutter.