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RE: Anti-immigration..does Right wing still fools masses?
July 15, 2023 at 3:09 pm
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Quote:The main findings of the report include:
83% of nondetained immigrants with completed or pending removal cases attended all of their hearings.
96% of nondetained immigrants represented by a lawyer attended all of their hearings.
15% of those who were ordered deported because they did not appear in court successfully reopened their cases and had their removal orders rescinded. In some years, as many as 20% of all orders of removal for missing court were later overturned.
Individuals who apply for relief from removal have especially high rates of appearance.
Appearance rates vary strongly based on the immigration court’s location.
The Executive Office for Immigration Review’s method for measuring the rate at which immigrants fail to appear in court presents a limited picture of the frequency of missed court appearances.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.o...tion-court
...and while we're on the subject of those hearings..isn't it amazing that a minor child with no parent, guardian, or legal counsel and who doesn't speak the language of the court can be processed, with or without an interpreter. These types of proceedings are, ofc, part of the no show list.
Ultimately, as other posters have noticed, if you're going to link to hate groups then it's probably useless to pretend that we have no control over the border, too. We have control, and the immigrants are going through the process. The trouble is that we're not using our control to shoot enough of them and that there's even a process for them to go through.
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RE: Anti-immigration..does Right wing still fools masses?
July 15, 2023 at 3:23 pm
(July 15, 2023 at 2:58 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 15, 2023 at 2:45 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: In 2022, various law-enforcement types arrested 2.4 million immigrants at your southern border. That hardly sounds like a lack of control.
Boru Most of them are given a court appearance date and released. Most of the time they don't show up.
Shall we do a little googling on FAIR?!? I'll bet you really don't want that...
FAIR
Quote:The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) is a non profit, anti-immigration organization in the United States.[6] The group publishes position papers, organizes events, and runs campaigns in order to advocate for changes in U.S. immigration policy. The Southern Poverty Law Center classifies FAIR as a hate group with ties to white supremacist groups.[7][8][9][10]
FAIR was founded in 1979 by Michigan surgeon and white nationalist John Tanton.[11][12][13] Other co-founders include Otis Graham and former Gulf Oil CEO, Sydney Swensrud. It is currently headquartered in Washington, D.C.
(my bolding)
Lek, you really shouldn't be aligning yourself with a hate group known for hiring from know white supremacist organizations if your trying not to look like a bigot with your bigoted immigration views. You keep claiming you're not a bigot, but birds of a feather and all that.
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RE: Anti-immigration..does Right wing still fools masses?
July 15, 2023 at 3:28 pm
Had anyone held doubts that Lek is a POS person prior to this thread?
I surely had no doubts.
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RE: Anti-immigration..does Right wing still fools masses?
July 15, 2023 at 3:30 pm
(July 15, 2023 at 3:09 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Quote:The main findings of the report include:
83% of nondetained immigrants with completed or pending removal cases attended all of their hearings.
96% of nondetained immigrants represented by a lawyer attended all of their hearings.
15% of those who were ordered deported because they did not appear in court successfully reopened their cases and had their removal orders rescinded. In some years, as many as 20% of all orders of removal for missing court were later overturned.
Individuals who apply for relief from removal have especially high rates of appearance.
Appearance rates vary strongly based on the immigration court’s location.
The Executive Office for Immigration Review’s method for measuring the rate at which immigrants fail to appear in court presents a limited picture of the frequency of missed court appearances.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.o...tion-court
...and while we're on the subject of those hearings..isn't it amazing that a minor child with no parent, guardian, or legal counsel and who doesn't speak the language of the court can be processed, with or without an interpreter. These types of proceedings are, ofc, part of the no show list.
Ultimately, as other posters have noticed, if you're going to link to hate groups then it's probably useless to pretend that we have no control over the border, too. We have control, and the immigrants are going through the process. The trouble is that we're not using our control to shoot enough of them and that there's even a process for them to go through. I give this one to you, but it only applies to those who are given court dates; not to those who enter undetected. Those who apply for asylum voluntarily identity themselves. They would be the ones to follow the law.
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RE: Anti-immigration..does Right wing still fools masses?
July 15, 2023 at 3:33 pm
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So..what we should do, is make entry more orderly, so that there's no reason not to get a date and go to the date and then we can get even more legal immigrants into this country to fuel our economy, yeah?
Would you like me to post some stats on the supposed "undetecteds" - or would you not be surprised to find out that the way people get here is by coming through legally, often on a plane, and simply overstaying?
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RE: Anti-immigration..does Right wing still fools masses?
July 15, 2023 at 3:33 pm
(July 15, 2023 at 3:23 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: (July 15, 2023 at 2:58 pm)Lek Wrote: Most of them are given a court appearance date and released. Most of the time they don't show up.
Shall we do a little googling on FAIR?!? I'll bet you really don't want that...
FAIR
Quote:The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) is a non profit, anti-immigration organization in the United States.[6] The group publishes position papers, organizes events, and runs campaigns in order to advocate for changes in U.S. immigration policy. The Southern Poverty Law Center classifies FAIR as a hate group with ties to white supremacist groups.[7][8][9][10]
FAIR was founded in 1979 by Michigan surgeon and white nationalist John Tanton.[11][12][13] Other co-founders include Otis Graham and former Gulf Oil CEO, Sydney Swensrud. It is currently headquartered in Washington, D.C.
(my bolding)
Lek, you really shouldn't be aligning yourself with a hate group known for hiring from know white supremacist organizations if your trying not to look like a bigot with your bigoted immigration views. You keep claiming you're not a bigot, but birds of a feather and all that. You're using a hate group to identify a hate group.
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RE: Anti-immigration..does Right wing still fools masses?
July 15, 2023 at 3:34 pm
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2023 at 3:35 pm by Lek.)
(July 15, 2023 at 3:33 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: So..what we should do, is make entry more orderly, so that there's no reason not to get a date and go to the date and then we can get even more legal immigrants into this country to fuel our economy, yeah?
Yeah. We need to be able to keep the slime out.
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RE: Anti-immigration..does Right wing still fools masses?
July 15, 2023 at 3:35 pm
Sounds great, it's also what we're doing.
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RE: Anti-immigration..does Right wing still fools masses?
July 15, 2023 at 3:37 pm
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2023 at 3:38 pm by Angrboda.)
(July 15, 2023 at 3:33 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 15, 2023 at 3:23 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Shall we do a little googling on FAIR?!? I'll bet you really don't want that...
FAIR
(my bolding)
Lek, you really shouldn't be aligning yourself with a hate group known for hiring from know white supremacist organizations if your trying not to look like a bigot with your bigoted immigration views. You keep claiming you're not a bigot, but birds of a feather and all that. You're using a hate group to identify a hate group.
I'll bite. What specific characteristics define a hate group such that the SPLC is one? Simply not agreeing with your shitty beliefs isn't fair dinkum.
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RE: Anti-immigration..does Right wing still fools masses?
July 15, 2023 at 3:39 pm
(July 15, 2023 at 3:33 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 15, 2023 at 3:23 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Shall we do a little googling on FAIR?!? I'll bet you really don't want that...
FAIR
(my bolding)
Lek, you really shouldn't be aligning yourself with a hate group known for hiring from know white supremacist organizations if your trying not to look like a bigot with your bigoted immigration views. You keep claiming you're not a bigot, but birds of a feather and all that. You're using a hate group to identify a hate group.
Even if true, it doesn't change the fact that FAIR is a hate group, and you align with them, willingly.
Then again, considering your immigration views...
Bad look, brah.
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