(July 25, 2023 at 6:02 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(July 25, 2023 at 5:28 pm)Astreja Wrote: Personally I'm hoping for something more in the line of Schadenfreude, such as his employer or some financial regulator discovering some, um, improprieties.

He's a banker.  What could he possibly do that would alienate his slavemasters?

Fail to turn a quarterly profit.

C'mon people, stop feeding the troll. The sooner replies stop, the sooner it is gone.

(July 25, 2023 at 10:18 pm)Fireball Wrote: C'mon people, stop feeding the troll. The sooner replies stop, the sooner it is gone.

But...


BUT...


CHEWTOY!

(July 25, 2023 at 9:05 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(July 25, 2023 at 2:28 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: You do you.  I was essentially begging for a break.

We could contribute for a porkchop to tie around his neck. 
Maybe a dog would play with him and keep him busy. 
They could do rosaries together.
There is no way in hell this idiot is an investment banker,

Apparently, you have a higher opinion of investment bankers than I do.

(July 25, 2023 at 11:07 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(July 25, 2023 at 9:05 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: We could contribute for a porkchop to tie around his neck. 
Maybe a dog would play with him and keep him busy. 
They could do rosaries together.
There is no way in hell this idiot is an investment banker,

Apparently, you have a higher opinion of investment bankers than I do.

I don’t think saying this idiot is infinitely dumber than any investment banker in anyway implies the dumbest investment bankers must therefore have nonzero IQ.

Yeah, in Investment Banking no one could care in the least whether you believe in evolution, aliens, any of these, none of these, or anything in between, as long as you make money for the Bank. It's my understanding that some evolutionary Biologists - Professors in some universities for e.g. - have a hard time in their careers if they openly criticize Evolution, even if they internally doubt it, and even if their credentials are otherwise impeccable, and their research in other fields widely accepted. I read as much in an ID Book by a Biologist whose name I won't mention for that same reason. But in I-banking there is no such constraint and people could care less if you believed in Evo-devo or not.

I do agree that some Evolution happened, though. But let's now come back to the Piltdown Hoax. Why was this Hoax universally taught for 40 years? It was even claimed as the alleged missing link and destroyed the Faith of millions before it was acknowledged to be a Hoax. And as the BBC article I linked to in the OP says: "'All bets now off' on which ape was humanity's ancestor", they still have no clue which Ape or Ape-Man it allegedly was. They're just guessing and speculating. Apist-Human Evolution I deny until there is incontrovertible evidence that it happened.

That BBC Article I linked to was from 28 August 2019. It also says: "The current view that an ape named Lucy was among a species that gave rise to the first early humans may have to be reconsidered .. The discovery of the first afarensis skeleton in 1974 caused a sensation. She was nicknamed Lucy by researchers after the Beatles song, Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds, which was playing at the excavation site."

Want to establish 3 things now (1) first that Piltdown man was taught for 40 years in the education system in the US and other places (as the below links/books will document shortly), proposed as the missing link, and killed the faith/souls of millions, so the damage was done, before it was universally admitted as a hoax, (2) from a Christian perspective, the known baneful/harmful effects of teaching apist-human evolution as a proven fact when it is not (3) how Williams correctly deduced, from the fossil evidence, that Piltdown Man was a Hoax, some 25 years before Evolutionist Scientists finally caught up, in 1953. Do remember the Communist Stalinists also lied about the Holodomor until they couldn't any more.

1. "On the contrary, Piltdown man was extremely influential in shaping evolutionary thinking and early research on human evolutionary theory. For the four decades before it was exposed, Piltdown man was considered the ‘missing link’. It was used as one of the key evidences against creation in the Scopes trial. It altered the education in the United States for a whole generation and found its way into major science textbooks and encyclopedias—and it was a hoax. There were over 250 publications on Piltdown man alone!1 The implications for evolutionary theory were tremendous. Entire evolutionary-developmental theories about hominid evolution were based on Piltdown and many of those were demolished when the fraud was exposed. 250 publications! It would be nothing short of historical revisionism to downplay its significance." Taken from: https://creation.com/evolution-fraud

2. Next, point 2 from the Christian perspective in Williams book that I linked to. It was written nearly a century ago, so some of the language is a bit archaic/dated:

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"So baneful has been the effect of teaching evolution as a proven hypothesis, that multitudes have been led into infidelity and atheism. Prof. James H. Leuba, of Bryn Mawr College, Pa., sent a questionaire to 1000 of the most prominent scientists teaching sciences relating to evolution. The replies indicate that more than one-half do not believe in a personal God, nor the immortality of the soul,—beliefs almost universal even in the heathen [non-Christian] world. So pernicious is this doctrine of evolution that more than one-half of the professors who teach it and kindred subjects, are infidels and atheists and farther from God than the ignorant heathen ... A doctrine so abhorrent to the conscience, so contrary to the well nigh universal belief, and so fruitful of evil, certainly can not be true. Small wonder is it that students are fast becoming infidels and atheists, and we shudder as we think of the coming generation ... It will be a sorry world when “scientific” atheism wins, under the name of evolution."

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3. 3rd, point 3, on the Piltdown hoax, from the same book, decades before Evolutionist Scientists admitted it was a hoax, for some of the same reasons already mentioned in this book:

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"3. The Piltdown Man (or Fake). The next fragments of bones, in chronological order, upon which evolutionists rely to prove their impossible theory, has been called the Piltdown man. It has been more truthfully called the Piltdown fake. Dr. Chapin gravely tells us (Social Evolution, p. 67): “During the years 1912, a series of fragments of a human skull and a jaw bone were found associated with eolithic implements and the bones of extinct mammals in Pleistocene deposits on a plateau, 80 feet above the river bed, at Piltdown, Fletching, Sussex, Eng.....The remains were of great importance. The discoverers regard this relic as a specimen of a distinct genus of the human species and it has been called Eoanthropus Dawsoni. This extinct man lived in Europe hundreds of thousands of years ago.” We have passed over 200,000 to 300,000 years since the Heidelberg man, that have not yielded a scrap of bone, though according to the theory, countless millions of ape-men must have lived in various stages of development, in that great stretch of time. Why were not some of them preserved? Simply because there were no ape-men. There are countless relics of apes, but none of ape-men. Even Wells says: “At a great open-air camp at Solutre, where they seem to have had annual gatherings for many centuries, it is estimated there are the bones of 100,000 horses.” Would we not expect as many bones of ape-men? While Wells says the bones of 100,000 horses were found in a single locality, Dr. Ales Hrdlicka says that the bones of 200,000 prehistoric horses were found in another place. Why should we not find, for the same reason, the bones of millions of ape-men and ape-women in 750,000 years? Instead of millions we have the alleged fragments of 4, all of which are of a very doubtful character."

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From: https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/850...mages.html Read for yourself and decide as you will. God Bless.

So now repeating stupid creationist tropes (seriously Piltdown man)

(July 25, 2023 at 9:05 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

(July 25, 2023 at 2:28 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: You do you.  I was essentially begging for a break.

We could contribute for a porkchop to tie around his neck. 
Maybe a dog would play with him and keep him busy. 
They could do rosaries together.
There is no way in hell this idiot is an investment banker,

I'm a Texan. I got poke chops in the freezer, ready to mail.

(July 25, 2023 at 11:54 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: I do agree that some Evolution happened, though. But let's now come back to the Piltdown Hoax. Why was this Hoax universally taught for 40 years? It was even claimed as the alleged missing link and destroyed the Faith of millions before it was acknowledged to be a Hoax. And as the BBC article I linked to in the OP says: "'All bets now off' on which ape was humanity's ancestor", they still have no clue which Ape or Ape-Man it allegedly was. They're just guessing and speculating. Apist-Human Evolution I deny until there is incontrovertible evidence that it happened.

There is incontrovertible evidence that the evolution of man from apes happened, and all that this BBC article says is that there may be other ape species instead of Australopithecus that were human ancestors; that article does not say, as you wrongly concluded (or probably you just paraphrased conclusion of some other creationist) that there is a doubt whether humans came from apes.

And not only did humans come from apes, but humans are apes.

Whole bunch of homos.