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RE: Every person is religious
September 6, 2023 at 5:21 pm
No one cares, least of all me, still not religious though!
In what way am I "clinging to some kind of post-life existence" ?? I'm just pointing out that after I die I will no longer exist exept in the memory of those who knew me. That memory will have nothing to do with me though and will not affect my rotting body at all
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RE: Every person is religious
September 6, 2023 at 5:35 pm
(September 6, 2023 at 5:21 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: No one cares, least of all me, still not religious though!
In what way am I "clinging to some kind of post-life existence" ?? I'm just pointing out that after I die I will no longer exist exept in the memory of those who knew me. That memory will have nothing to do with me though and will not affect my rotting body at all
You clearly still think you matter. You don't. The sooner you can realize that, the better off you'll be.
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RE: Every person is religious
September 6, 2023 at 5:41 pm
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Spoken like a person with no religion. Religion fundamentally insists that people do matter, that their actions do matter.
A wonderful example of "spiritual" but not religious - so long as we realize that when you say spiritual you mean superstitious. You think you've trapped a ghost in your meat cage - but that doesn't yield any meaning. Zebo doesn't matter, you don't matter - the pure (asserted) fact of the superstition is utterly meaningless.
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RE: Every person is religious
September 6, 2023 at 6:34 pm
(September 6, 2023 at 5:41 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Spoken like a person with no religion. Religion fundamentally insists that people do matter, that their actions do matter.
A wonderful example of "spiritual" but not religious - so long as we realize that when you say spiritual you mean superstitious. You think you've trapped a ghost in your meat cage - but that doesn't yield any meaning. Zebo doesn't matter, you don't matter - the pure (asserted) fact of the superstition is utterly meaningless.
My religion doesn't insist on that. Many other religions insist on that, but mine doesn't.
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RE: Every person is religious
September 6, 2023 at 6:38 pm
It's very simple. Evil people go to Hell, where there is no sex or anything fun, while the innocent ones get to have unlimited sex and fun times with cute angels in Heaven.
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RE: Every person is religious
September 6, 2023 at 6:39 pm
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(September 6, 2023 at 6:34 pm)Ahriman Wrote: (September 6, 2023 at 5:41 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Spoken like a person with no religion. Religion fundamentally insists that people do matter, that their actions do matter.
A wonderful example of "spiritual" but not religious - so long as we realize that when you say spiritual you mean superstitious. You think you've trapped a ghost in your meat cage - but that doesn't yield any meaning. Zebo doesn't matter, you don't matter - the pure (asserted) fact of the superstition is utterly meaningless.
My religion doesn't insist on that. Many other religions insist on that, but mine doesn't.
Just like the term "spiritual" you use the term "religion" to mean something other than.
What is word.
I see you above arguing with yourself, talking about the ways that people and their actions do matter, after all, directly after denying as much - and while arguing against your own earlier assertion that all people are religious by mooting any actual religious ideation that people might really share in the first place. So tedious. People like you are the reason that discussions like these can't be had. Your specific idiocy is conflated with the idiocy of the set in general - and here we are.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Every person is religious
September 6, 2023 at 6:40 pm
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(September 6, 2023 at 1:33 pm)Ahriman Wrote: (September 6, 2023 at 12:30 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: So 'because I said so'. Color me underwhelmed.
What were you expecting? Don't be so stuck on yourself. I don't live to meet your expectations.
And likewise, your opinion is, so far as I see, worthless. You can either support it or not. Tell me why your opinion matters?
'Cause otherwise you look like just another Internet blowhard.
(September 6, 2023 at 4:09 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Nah, people who adhere to a known world religion adopt the beliefs of their religion and don't form their own beliefs. I form my own beliefs.
... as if that lends you any gravitas. Your belief in an afterlife is unsupported and likely -- like any other religion -- based in the fear of death, hence your aversion to suicide.
How's the rest of your TBI treatment going?
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RE: Every person is religious
September 6, 2023 at 6:45 pm
(This post was last modified: September 6, 2023 at 6:45 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Why ask him to support his opinions? He can't even maintain them sentence to sentence or post to post.
I often say that there's no such thing as a person who actually doesn't know what they think - but Ahri here is a convincing argument otherwise.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Every person is religious
September 6, 2023 at 6:46 pm
(September 6, 2023 at 6:38 pm)Ahriman Wrote: It's very simple. Evil people go to Hell, where there is no sex or anything fun, while the innocent ones get to have unlimited sex and fun times with cute angels in Heaven.
Atheist engineers will have hell properly air-conditioned in about five minutes, maybe.
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RE: Every person is religious
September 6, 2023 at 6:49 pm
(September 6, 2023 at 6:39 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (September 6, 2023 at 6:34 pm)Ahriman Wrote: My religion doesn't insist on that. Many other religions insist on that, but mine doesn't.
Just like the term "spiritual" you use the term "religion" to mean something other than.
What is word.
I see you above arguing with yourself, talking about the ways that people and their actions do matter, after all, directly after denying as much - and while arguing against your own earlier assertion that all people are religious by mooting any actual religious ideation that people might really share in the first place. So tedious. People like you are the reason that discussions like these can't be had. Your specific idiocy is conflated with the idiocy of the set in general - and here we are.
When did I say people's actions matter? Evil people will always be evil, their actions won't change that, they're all going to Hell no matter what they do.
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