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RE: The Absurd GOP
October 13, 2023 at 9:26 am
At far-right roadshow, Trump is God's 'anointed one,' QAnon is king, and 'everything you believe is right'
Between rows of portable toilets, a line of strangers waited be baptized in an aluminum horse trough. One by one, they emerged from water heated all day by the Nevada sun, united in purpose as new soldiers for Donald Trump.
Nearby, Christian rock blared from a large tent where pastors standing before the main stage prayed and laid hands on attendees of the ReAwaken America Tour, a far-right religious roadshow now in its third year.
Helmed by retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn — a supporter of the former president and a key figure in efforts to overturn the 2020 election — and Clay Clark, an Oklahoma entrepreneur and podcaster, the whirlwind event melds the MAGA movement, election denial, QAnon conspiracy theories and doomsday prophecy.
The two-day church revival held in August just outside Las Vegas featured nearly 70 speakers who preached that vaccines are poisonous and will bring about the end of the world, that a cabal of global leaders is engaged in child sex trafficking and that the 2020 election was stolen.
Through it all was an apocalyptic drumbeat that the country will be destroyed if Trump doesn't become president again. God wants him to win in 2024, speakers proclaimed to their audience, and as Christians they have been called upon to ensure he does.
"We know the one in charge up above, and I can tell you that I believe that he has his hand now on Donald Trump, that no weapon formed against him shall prosper," Trump's daughter-in-law, Lara Trump, told the crowd. "God is a part of this race. I'm telling you guys this. I feel it deep down inside."
Over the last year, the tour has become increasingly focused on reelecting Trump. In North Las Vegas, several speakers referred to him as the "rightful president." Self-described prophets spoke of Trump as God's "anointed one," and presenters told the crowd that his reelection is necessary to save the country from evil.
“Just as Jesus Christ our heavenly father saved me, I am absolutely convinced that he will deliver Donald Trump and save this nation in our greatest moment of peril,” former Trump political advisor Roger Stone told the crowd.
Rhetoric on the tour can veer toward the violent, invoking deliverance and final judgment. A crowd wearing red "Make America Great Again" caps and clothing emblazoned with the American flag roared with laughter when far-right radio personality Stew Peters called for the deaths of President Biden's son Hunter and retired White House chief medical advisor Anthony Fauci.
“Let's be clear. Accountability is God's job. But it's not solely God's job. No, it's our job too,” Peters said. “When [Fauci] is convicted after a short and fast but thorough trial, he will hang up from a length of thick rope until he is dead. … When [Hunter Biden] is convicted … he will get … death!”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...r-AA1i5J9m
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: The Absurd GOP
October 13, 2023 at 10:07 am
(October 13, 2023 at 9:26 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: At far-right roadshow, Trump is God's 'anointed one,' QAnon is king, and 'everything you believe is right'
Between rows of portable toilets, a line of strangers waited be baptized in an aluminum horse trough. One by one, they emerged from water heated all day by the Nevada sun, united in purpose as new soldiers for Donald Trump.
Nearby, Christian rock blared from a large tent where pastors standing before the main stage prayed and laid hands on attendees of the ReAwaken America Tour, a far-right religious roadshow now in its third year.
Helmed by retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn — a supporter of the former president and a key figure in efforts to overturn the 2020 election — and Clay Clark, an Oklahoma entrepreneur and podcaster, the whirlwind event melds the MAGA movement, election denial, QAnon conspiracy theories and doomsday prophecy.
The two-day church revival held in August just outside Las Vegas featured nearly 70 speakers who preached that vaccines are poisonous and will bring about the end of the world, that a cabal of global leaders is engaged in child sex trafficking and that the 2020 election was stolen.
Through it all was an apocalyptic drumbeat that the country will be destroyed if Trump doesn't become president again. God wants him to win in 2024, speakers proclaimed to their audience, and as Christians they have been called upon to ensure he does.
"We know the one in charge up above, and I can tell you that I believe that he has his hand now on Donald Trump, that no weapon formed against him shall prosper," Trump's daughter-in-law, Lara Trump, told the crowd. "God is a part of this race. I'm telling you guys this. I feel it deep down inside."
Over the last year, the tour has become increasingly focused on reelecting Trump. In North Las Vegas, several speakers referred to him as the "rightful president." Self-described prophets spoke of Trump as God's "anointed one," and presenters told the crowd that his reelection is necessary to save the country from evil.
“Just as Jesus Christ our heavenly father saved me, I am absolutely convinced that he will deliver Donald Trump and save this nation in our greatest moment of peril,” former Trump political advisor Roger Stone told the crowd.
Rhetoric on the tour can veer toward the violent, invoking deliverance and final judgment. A crowd wearing red "Make America Great Again" caps and clothing emblazoned with the American flag roared with laughter when far-right radio personality Stew Peters called for the deaths of President Biden's son Hunter and retired White House chief medical advisor Anthony Fauci.
“Let's be clear. Accountability is God's job. But it's not solely God's job. No, it's our job too,” Peters said. “When [Fauci] is convicted after a short and fast but thorough trial, he will hang up from a length of thick rope until he is dead. … When [Hunter Biden] is convicted … he will get … death!”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...r-AA1i5J9m
What utter nonsense from those guys! Trump is no messiah, nor should he be considered one. The country will not be destroyed if he is not re-elected. Quite the opposite, really.
These people only care about themselves rather than the actual health of the nation. They would be bringing doom to the USA if they somehow succeeded in their goal.
This is another reason as to why religion is not really a good thing.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
October 13, 2023 at 10:21 am
(October 13, 2023 at 10:07 am)ShinyCrystals Wrote: What utter nonsense from those guys! Trump is no messiah, nor should he be considered one. The country will not be destroyed if he is not re-elected. Quite the opposite, really. How can he be re-elected if he already won the 2020 election? Isn't there a a rule that says Presidents can only be elected twice?
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RE: The Absurd GOP
October 13, 2023 at 10:27 am
(October 13, 2023 at 10:21 am)LinuxGal Wrote: (October 13, 2023 at 10:07 am)ShinyCrystals Wrote: What utter nonsense from those guys! Trump is no messiah, nor should he be considered one. The country will not be destroyed if he is not re-elected. Quite the opposite, really. How can he be re-elected if he already won the 2020 election? Isn't there a a rule that says Presidents can only be elected twice?
Wasn’t he elected once, though? I mean, I know he lost his second election, but yeah, I do not think the being elected twice thing has been done for him yet.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
October 13, 2023 at 10:29 am
(October 13, 2023 at 10:27 am)ShinyCrystals Wrote: (October 13, 2023 at 10:21 am)LinuxGal Wrote: How can he be re-elected if he already won the 2020 election? Isn't there a a rule that says Presidents can only be elected twice?
Wasn’t he elected once, though? I mean, I know he lost his second election, but yeah, I do not think the being elected twice thing has been done for him yet.
But there are Representatives in House leadership positions even today who refuse to say Biden won in 2020.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
October 13, 2023 at 10:37 am
(October 13, 2023 at 10:29 am)LinuxGal Wrote: (October 13, 2023 at 10:27 am)ShinyCrystals Wrote: Wasn’t he elected once, though? I mean, I know he lost his second election, but yeah, I do not think the being elected twice thing has been done for him yet.
But there are Representatives in House leadership positions even today who refuse to say Biden won in 2020.
Yeah, even though they have leadership, they are just being corrupt and self-centered. They were also manipulated by Trump himself, or chose to accept his lies.
Still, what does their not wanting to accept Biden winning that year have to do with Trump and being elected twice?
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RE: The Absurd GOP
October 13, 2023 at 11:13 am
(October 13, 2023 at 10:37 am)ShinyCrystals Wrote: (October 13, 2023 at 10:29 am)LinuxGal Wrote: But there are Representatives in House leadership positions even today who refuse to say Biden won in 2020.
Yeah, even though they have leadership, they are just being corrupt and self-centered. They were also manipulated by Trump himself, or chose to accept his lies.
Still, what does their not wanting to accept Biden winning that year have to do with Trump and being elected twice?
You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't say Trump won in 2020 and also say he is entitled to run for a third time in 2024. One of the two has to give.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
October 13, 2023 at 11:15 am
I know I am bad at math, but Trump running again and being reelected makes it only his second attempt at the presidency.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
October 13, 2023 at 11:17 am
(October 13, 2023 at 11:13 am)LinuxGal Wrote: (October 13, 2023 at 10:37 am)ShinyCrystals Wrote: Yeah, even though they have leadership, they are just being corrupt and self-centered. They were also manipulated by Trump himself, or chose to accept his lies.
Still, what does their not wanting to accept Biden winning that year have to do with Trump and being elected twice?
You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't say Trump won in 2020 and also say he is entitled to run for a third time in 2024. One of the two has to give.
The republicans are really going that far? Wow. They really are hypocrites.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
October 13, 2023 at 11:35 am
They can say that and any other thing. The Mad King himself only recently claimed that the constitution doesn't apply to presidents. That they're not sworn to support it, and that even if they did incite an insurrection - it can't hold them accountable for that. Term limits are pedestrian.
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