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RE: Stupid things religious people say
October 12, 2023 at 1:45 am
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
October 12, 2023 at 5:48 pm
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
October 12, 2023 at 9:14 pm
(October 12, 2023 at 5:48 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Watch out, he's coming...
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
October 13, 2023 at 8:38 am
We didn't have William Lane Craig in this thread for some time, so here are the words from the doctor:
William Lane Craig Wrote:Traditional Christology recognizes that Christ had a human mind or consciousness that was limited in knowledge and that developed throughout his lifetime. That is why we are not committed to the monstrosity of the baby Jesus lying in the manger contemplating the infinitesimal calculus or quantum mechanics. Rather, Jesus possessed at every point during his lifetime a typical human consciousness. But it is a very different thing to say that Jesus possessed false beliefs. Even if in his human mind or consciousness Jesus was not aware of or did not have access to the full contents of the mind of the Logos, the second person of the Trinity, still the person who Christ is had the full knowledge proper to an omniscient being with respect to his divine nature. Since there is according to orthodox Christological confession but one person who is Christ and since that person is divine, that person is omniscient. According to the standard definition, a person S is omniscient iff for any proposition p, if p, then S knows that p and does not believe not-p.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
October 13, 2023 at 10:05 am
(October 13, 2023 at 8:38 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: We didn't have William Lane Craig in this thread for some time, so here are the words from the doctor:
William Lane Craig Wrote:But it is a very different thing to say that Jesus possessed false beliefs. Even if in his human mind or consciousness Jesus was not aware of or did not have access to the full contents of the mind of the Logos, the second person of the Trinity, still the person who Christ is had the full knowledge proper to an omniscient being with respect to his divine nature. Since there is according to orthodox Christological confession but one person who is Christ and since that person is divine, that person is omniscient. According to the standard definition, a person S is omniscient iff for any proposition p, if p, then S knows that p and does not believe not-p.
Also Jesus (Matthew 16:28): Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
October 13, 2023 at 1:39 pm
(October 12, 2023 at 1:45 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: ![[Image: Cheat.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/k4Vhw2Gn/Cheat.jpg)
Well he's kind of right. Celebrating Halloween isn't something a Christian should do. If Christians want to be serious about their faith, then there are certain things they simply shouldn't do, and celebrating Halloween is one of those things. I don't celebrate Halloween, like I don't go to parties or pass out candy or any of that stuff, but for me it's more like a self-discipline thing, as opposed to being religiously motivated.
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
October 14, 2023 at 12:30 am
(October 13, 2023 at 1:39 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Celebrating Halloween isn't something a Christian should do.
Even if they think it's fun? So Christians should not have fun because people like you tell them not to.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
October 14, 2023 at 1:12 am
(October 14, 2023 at 12:30 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (October 13, 2023 at 1:39 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Celebrating Halloween isn't something a Christian should do.
Even if they think it's fun? So Christians should not have fun because people like you tell them not to.
Right, that's what I'm saying. People should listen to me because I know what I'm talking about. Halloween isn't for Christians. If they want to stay true to their religion, then they should not celebrate Halloween, because Halloween is all about ghosts and demons and dead people and shit like that. All very unholy stuff.
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
October 14, 2023 at 3:27 am
But Christianity is all about worshipping a dead guy who rose from the dead. . Zombie god!
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
October 14, 2023 at 6:29 am
(October 13, 2023 at 1:39 pm)Ahriman Wrote: (October 12, 2023 at 1:45 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
Well he's kind of right. Celebrating Halloween isn't something a Christian should do. If Christians want to be serious about their faith, then there are certain things they simply shouldn't do, and celebrating Halloween is one of those things. I don't celebrate Halloween, like I don't go to parties or pass out candy or any of that stuff, but for me it's more like a self-discipline thing, as opposed to being religiously motivated.
Celebrating Hallowe’en is EXACTLY something Christians should do. It is and always has been a Christian holiday (the connections with Celtic Samhain are incidental and tenuous at best).
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