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RE: Smoking
October 21, 2023 at 2:04 pm
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(October 21, 2023 at 10:48 am)emjay Wrote: I never pegged you as a smoker. FWIW if you do have any interest in quitting, but are finding it difficult, I'd highly recommend the drug I used to quit. It was a prescription only drug, and IMO a miracle drug, called Champix (just ask your doctor about it). It basically rewires your perception of smoking, makes you perceive it as bland and pointless. It's great if you have trouble with the willpower required to quit smoking by other means, because this hardly needs any beyond the decision of when to actually have your last cigarette. For me, quitting was just that decision followed by a gradual and deliberate process of identifying and exposing myself to as many smoking triggers as I could think of until I had basically reconditioned all my habits.
Big time, I'll smoke just about anything once. It's not a willpower thing. I've quit before, always cold turkey. Harder to quit drinking, in my experience. What I really want to do is replace all of my bad habits with more money....and more weed. Not exactly a healthy goal, but I like it. IDK, I missed the cultural memo. I don't actually worry about how it's going to kill me, and mostly because I know I'm doing a ton of other shit that will get me first.
That particular drug... tho, lol, in a word..no. It doesn't take "vivid and unusual dreams" to get me to do something fucked up that I regret forever, already had that talk with my docter.
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RE: Smoking
October 21, 2023 at 4:50 pm
(October 21, 2023 at 2:04 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (October 21, 2023 at 10:48 am)emjay Wrote: I never pegged you as a smoker. FWIW if you do have any interest in quitting, but are finding it difficult, I'd highly recommend the drug I used to quit. It was a prescription only drug, and IMO a miracle drug, called Champix (just ask your doctor about it). It basically rewires your perception of smoking, makes you perceive it as bland and pointless. It's great if you have trouble with the willpower required to quit smoking by other means, because this hardly needs any beyond the decision of when to actually have your last cigarette. For me, quitting was just that decision followed by a gradual and deliberate process of identifying and exposing myself to as many smoking triggers as I could think of until I had basically reconditioned all my habits.
Big time, I'll smoke just about anything once. It's not a willpower thing. I've quit before, always cold turkey. Harder to quit drinking, in my experience. What I really want to do is replace all of my bad habits with more money....and more weed. Not exactly a healthy goal, but I like it. IDK, I missed the cultural memo. I don't actually worry about how it's going to kill me, and mostly because I know I'm doing a ton of other shit that will get me first.
That particular drug... tho, lol, in a word..no. It doesn't take "vivid and unusual dreams" to get me to do something fucked up that I regret forever, already had that talk with my docter.
Yeah, somehow I didn't figure it would be a willpower thing with you... you've always struck me as very strong-willed and resolute.
It's not my place to tell you how to live your life, but I won't lie and say I don't hope you change your mind some day... don't wanna lose you man 
In my experience it's very easy to say how much you're enjoying it and other abstract things about how other things'll get you first etc. I used to do the same all the time, sometimes the ultimate in procrastination, and not just about this but other areas of my health... but when I actually hit rock bottom and had to make real concrete choices, I always regretted that cavalier attitude I'd had. Unfortunately it's just my nature, and looks like it's yours too, but just sayin' that's how it looks from beyond the general/abstract and rose-tinted glasses, and I hope you see it one day.
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RE: Smoking
October 21, 2023 at 4:52 pm
‘Quitting smoking is easy. I’ve done it hundreds of times.’ - Mark Twain
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RE: Smoking
October 21, 2023 at 8:13 pm
(October 21, 2023 at 4:52 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: ‘Quitting smoking is easy. I’ve done it hundreds of times.’ - Mark Twain
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RE: Smoking
October 22, 2023 at 10:55 am
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RE: Smoking
October 22, 2023 at 11:25 am
I don't smoke. My body is a temple but with intestines, instead of Jews, in it.
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RE: Smoking
October 22, 2023 at 12:25 pm
At another forum, I once changed my avatar to this:
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Another member there had a shitfit meltdown, it was startling.
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RE: Smoking
October 22, 2023 at 2:21 pm
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The German word for smoking is rauchen and I can't think of a more apt word for it than that; to say it, it sounds just like my voice and my breathing sounded when I was smoking at my worst. A great word to practice the more awkward sounds of the German language... a rolling R and a loch-like ch... but otherwise a horrible word for a horrible thing that sounds just like its meaning, to me at least. That's all smoking will ever mean to me now... rauchen.
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RE: Smoking
October 22, 2023 at 2:23 pm
I quit in '88. If I hadn't I'd be dead now.
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RE: Smoking
October 22, 2023 at 4:15 pm
(October 22, 2023 at 2:21 pm)emjay Wrote: The German word for smoking is rauchen and I can't think of a more apt word for it than that; to say it, it sounds just like my voice and my breathing sounded when I was smoking at my worst. A great word to practice the more awkward sounds of the German language... a rolling R and a loch-like ch... but otherwise a horrible word for a horrible thing that sounds just like its meaning, to me at least. That's all smoking will ever mean to me now... rauchen.
Sounds like a pretty good word for it.
I think younger people can easily overlook the future health consequences of smoking. It's easy to rationalize things away when the effects occur decades later.
If you were to look at my extended family, and what happened to the generation older than me, overwhelmingly what killed them was smoking, followed closely by drinking.
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