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Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
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RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
October 30, 2023 at 8:51 pm
(October 30, 2023 at 1:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(October 30, 2023 at 1:48 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: If you're incompetent and know it, wouldn't that indicate you're not ready to take the position?

Please, do not try for any jobs that design health safety equipment or equipment used in national defence of any country.

Or critical thinking skills.

The critical thinking skills ship sailed when this fellow began using an atheist forum as a substitute for Stack Overflow.
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RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
October 31, 2023 at 8:04 am
(October 30, 2023 at 1:48 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:
(October 30, 2023 at 12:32 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: Well... yes.

If you're incompetent and know it, wouldn't that indicate you're not ready to take the position?

Please, do not try for any jobs that design health safety equipment or equipment used in national defence of any country.

And how do you think people get competent at real-world programming? By having a job, obviously.
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#43
RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
October 31, 2023 at 9:46 am
(October 31, 2023 at 8:04 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(October 30, 2023 at 1:48 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: If you're incompetent and know it, wouldn't that indicate you're not ready to take the position?

Please, do not try for any jobs that design health safety equipment or equipment used in national defence of any country.

And how do you think people get competent at real-world programming? By having a job, obviously.

"Entry-level" is the word you're looking for.
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#44
RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
October 31, 2023 at 11:58 am
(October 31, 2023 at 8:04 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(October 30, 2023 at 1:48 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: If you're incompetent and know it, wouldn't that indicate you're not ready to take the position?

Please, do not try for any jobs that design health safety equipment or equipment used in national defence of any country.

And how do you think people get competent at real-world programming? By having a job, obviously.

But you need to be able to demonstrate a basic level of competence before you can get hired. This is why there are so few armless ditch diggers in the world.

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#45
RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
October 31, 2023 at 10:11 pm
(October 31, 2023 at 8:04 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(October 30, 2023 at 1:48 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: If you're incompetent and know it, wouldn't that indicate you're not ready to take the position?

Please, do not try for any jobs that design health safety equipment or equipment used in national defence of any country.

And how do you think people get competent at real-world programming? By having a job, obviously.

When I left school, I already had basic competence in my chosen field.

Then again, I didn't cheat my way through, either.
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RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
October 31, 2023 at 10:45 pm
(October 31, 2023 at 11:58 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(October 31, 2023 at 8:04 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: And how do you think people get competent at real-world programming? By having a job, obviously.

But you need to be able to demonstrate a basic level of competence before you can get hired. This is why there are so few armless ditch diggers in the world.

Boru

This. The company I work for interviews many dozens of software engineers for each one it hires. Lacking experience? No problem for entry level work. Lacking basic competency won't make the cut.
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RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
November 1, 2023 at 3:40 am
An apt metaphor for Flat's job search:





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RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
November 1, 2023 at 9:34 am
Basic competence? You can learn to tie a bimini twist and bait hooks on the boat.
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#49
RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
November 1, 2023 at 2:00 pm
(October 31, 2023 at 10:11 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:
(October 31, 2023 at 8:04 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: And how do you think people get competent at real-world programming? By having a job, obviously.

When I left school, I already had basic competence in my chosen field.

Then again, I didn't cheat my way through, either.

And, if you think that I cheated my way through the university, why do you think it took me 5 years to finish a 3-years degree? If I was cheating a lot, don't you think it would have taken me only 3 years?
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RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
November 1, 2023 at 2:08 pm
(November 1, 2023 at 2:00 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(October 31, 2023 at 10:11 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: When I left school, I already had basic competence in my chosen field.

Then again, I didn't cheat my way through, either.

And, if you think that I cheated my way through the university, why do you think it took me 5 years to finish a 3-years degree? If I was cheating a lot, don't you think it would have taken me only 3 years?

Perhaps you aren't even good at cheating effectively.
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