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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 15, 2024 at 8:11 pm
Hi Great Button Pusher,
How’ve you been? I hope you had a vacation break and that it was good.
(January 15, 2024 at 7:54 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You should be ashamed - this attempt to launder the basis of your faith is insulting. Recognizing the limitations of our understanding is not laundering the basis of my faith. Yes, God is personal and intervening. Didn’t say he wasn’t.
(January 15, 2024 at 7:54 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Just another one of those heretical catholics..in name only.... that make up the majority of your cohort by self reporting and the anecdotal experience of your witdoctors. Further, the idea that the god of cathol is represented as both male and female is not true biblically, nor is it true in the many centuries of the development of the faith thereafter. You silly fuckers invented a demi-goddess to fill the feminine role..... Are you foaming at the mouth right now? I look at the post and that’s what I picture. LOL
Would you like me to share some verses where God is represented with the characteristics of a father and verses (much fewer, I agree) where God is represented with characteristics of a mother? (Which, by the way, is what I said, not that he was “both male and female”)
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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 15, 2024 at 8:12 pm
(January 15, 2024 at 7:51 pm)Angrboda Wrote: (January 15, 2024 at 7:50 pm)SimpleCaveman Wrote: The main reason (for this discussion) is, as Boru said, we are mostly a patriarchal society. Men need fathers. It’s important to our formation as men to have a good father.
At the same time, as before, God is beyond, or above, gender. The concept is only an anthropomorphization(?). God is represented as both a father and a mother in the Bible. It is the characteristics of fatherhood and motherhood that are more representative of God.
What of God isn't an anthropomorphization?
...and man created God in his image.
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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 15, 2024 at 8:29 pm
(January 15, 2024 at 8:11 pm)SimpleCaveman Wrote: Hi Great Button Pusher,
How’ve you been? I hope you had a vacation break and that it was good.
(January 15, 2024 at 7:54 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You should be ashamed - this attempt to launder the basis of your faith is insulting. Recognizing the limitations of our understanding is not laundering the basis of my faith. Yes, God is personal and intervening. Didn’t say he wasn’t.
(January 15, 2024 at 7:54 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Just another one of those heretical catholics..in name only.... that make up the majority of your cohort by self reporting and the anecdotal experience of your witdoctors. Further, the idea that the god of cathol is represented as both male and female is not true biblically, nor is it true in the many centuries of the development of the faith thereafter. You silly fuckers invented a demi-goddess to fill the feminine role..... Are you foaming at the mouth right now? I look at the post and that’s what I picture. LOL
Would you like me to share some verses where God is represented with the characteristics of a father and verses (much fewer, I agree) where God is represented with characteristics of a mother? (Which, by the way, is what I said, not that he was “both male and female”)
Mary is supposed to, basically, be a female version of God, right?
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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 15, 2024 at 8:42 pm
(This post was last modified: January 15, 2024 at 8:44 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
If god is personal and intervening, then anthropomorphizing divinity is not a bug, it's a feature. You can't take someone to task for something you positively affirm yourself..or, more accurately, you can.... and you come off like a disingenuous nitwit when you do. Even if you hadn't tried to follow that up with some weak insult about my mouth. Weirdo.
I'd prefer you didn't share anything from magic book - personally. I don't care that your catholic™ faith is novel and wholly representative of secular criticism. I think that's an improvement. I'm just pointing out that while it may be improved it is by no means coherent.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 15, 2024 at 9:02 pm
Hi Ahriman,
How’s it going? Hope you’re keeping warm!
(January 15, 2024 at 8:29 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Mary is supposed to, basically, be a female version of God, right? I know that’s a common perception, but no. She is not presented that way in the Bible nor by anyone in the Church since then. She is all, and only, human.
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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 15, 2024 at 9:10 pm
(January 15, 2024 at 8:42 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'd prefer you didn't share anything from magic book - personally. Sure, no problem. You admit that I’m right on that (one little) point, then? Cool.
(January 15, 2024 at 8:42 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If god is personal and intervening, then anthropomorphizing divinity is not a bug, it's a feature. You can't take someone to task for something you positively affirm yourself “take someone to task”? You’ll have to show me where I did that. The only place I can think of that’s close is when I said
(January 15, 2024 at 7:50 pm)SimpleCaveman Wrote: At the same time, as before, God is beyond, or above, gender. The concept is only an anthropomorphization(?). God is represented as both a father and a mother in the Bible. It is the characteristics of fatherhood and motherhood that are more representative of God. Saying that the concept is anthropomorphizing is, again, recognizing reality, not taking to task.
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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 15, 2024 at 9:14 pm
(January 15, 2024 at 8:11 pm)SimpleCaveman Wrote: Hi Great Button Pusher,
How’ve you been? I hope you had a vacation break and that it was good.
(January 15, 2024 at 7:54 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You should be ashamed - this attempt to launder the basis of your faith is insulting. Recognizing the limitations of our understanding is not laundering the basis of my faith. Yes, God is personal and intervening. Didn’t say he wasn’t.
(January 15, 2024 at 7:54 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Just another one of those heretical catholics..in name only.... that make up the majority of your cohort by self reporting and the anecdotal experience of your witdoctors. Further, the idea that the god of cathol is represented as both male and female is not true biblically, nor is it true in the many centuries of the development of the faith thereafter. You silly fuckers invented a demi-goddess to fill the feminine role..... Are you foaming at the mouth right now? I look at the post and that’s what I picture. LOL
Would you like me to share some verses where God is represented with the characteristics of a father and verses (much fewer, I agree) where God is represented with characteristics of a mother? (Which, by the way, is what I said, not that he was “both male and female”)
So your god is gender fluid. That ought to solve a lot of issues.
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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 15, 2024 at 9:17 pm
Does this mean we can remove the bible from schools in Florida?
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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 15, 2024 at 9:41 pm
(This post was last modified: January 15, 2024 at 9:44 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
No, Caveman, you're plain and simply wrong. On every point. That's the problem. You took someone else to task on their description by saying that god wasn't personal and cautioning us against anthropomorphization.... then babbled out of the other side of your mouth about god being personal and..now..that anthropomorphization is just "recognizing reality".
Apparently, you did this without realizing it, which is par for the course for catholics™, to hear the shamans in funny dresses tell it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
January 15, 2024 at 9:50 pm
People like the simplecaveman strengthen my decision to leave the Catholic church.
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