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RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions thread's landfill
December 26, 2011 at 5:56 am
Quote:Oh!! Why then don’t you apply your advice to yourself in order to stop being agnostic?
What on earth are you on about? Is that you that don't understand the meaning of the term 'agnostic atheist?
PLUS your comment is tu quoque. (look it up)
You really are a bit of a dill aren't you.
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December 26, 2011 at 6:21 am
I didn't avoid answering your question, Tango. It got lost in the massive dishes of word stew which you dish out. To tell the truth, I'm not sold on the multi-regional theory, but offered it up to you because you seem so absolutely convinced of your thesis. Do I think there were variations in skin color 60,000 years ago? Certainly. Do I think that this had nothing to do with location? Much less certainly. There are linguistic pluses to the multi-regional theory, but anthropological pluses to the O.o.A. theory.
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RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions thread's landfill
December 26, 2011 at 7:27 am
(December 26, 2011 at 5:56 am)padraic Wrote: What on earth are you on about? Is that you that don't understand the meaning of the term 'agnostic atheist? Exactly! An agnostic atheist is one who says he DOES NOT KNOW whether God exists… meaning that God may exist… meaning that he is a theist in disguise.
(December 26, 2011 at 5:56 am)padraic Wrote: PLUS your comment is tu quoque. (look it up) I became a category 7 atheist after many years of studying mythology and archaic texts.
If you do the same you’ll find out that for the last, say 12,000, years there have been thousands of variations of the God concept with every new one appearing cancelling and proving non-existent the God of the previous one.
Today’s God would be non-existent for the next generations. Your doubts as to God’s existence are referring to which edition of the God idea?
(December 26, 2011 at 5:56 am)padraic Wrote: You really are a bit of a dill aren't you. You really are a bit of αδαής (look it up)!
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RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions thread's landfill
December 26, 2011 at 7:52 am
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'I became a category 7 atheist after many years of studying mythology and archaic texts.'
Thats a poor reason to be an atheist, but a good reason to be irreligious.
A good reason for being an atheist is because of lack of proof of a god or gods.
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RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions thread's landfill
December 26, 2011 at 10:10 am
(December 26, 2011 at 7:52 am)5thHorseman Wrote: 'I became a category 7 atheist after many years of studying mythology and archaic texts.'
Thats a poor reason to be an atheist, but a good reason to be irreligious.
A good reason for being an atheist is because of lack of proof of a god or gods.
An atheist does not bother with proof or the lack of it of the material existence of the subject of a joke.
God is joke!
An archaic joke of gods ascending to the sky by means of a ladder.
People believed in gods long before religion was established and that is something your precious four Horsemen failed to teach.
You need to know the whole story in order to appreciate the magnitude of the joke!
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RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions thread's landfill
December 26, 2011 at 10:30 am
The devil is in the details, so to speak.
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RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions thread's landfill
December 26, 2011 at 11:09 am
Or not.
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RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions thread's landfill
December 26, 2011 at 11:22 am
'Exactly! An agnostic atheist is one who says he DOES NOT KNOW whether God exists… meaning that God may exist… meaning that he is a theist in disguise. '
Sigh, you have described an Agnostic, then gone off the rails.
An 'Agnostic Atheist' is someone who doesn't, in any shape or form, believe in a god, but does not in rule out the massively remote possibility completely. Richard Dawkins is one.
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RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions thread's landfill
December 26, 2011 at 1:07 pm
(December 26, 2011 at 11:22 am)5thHorseman Wrote: Sigh, you have described an Agnostic, then gone off the rails.
An 'Agnostic Atheist' is someone who doesn't, in any shape or form, believe in a god, but does not in rule out the massively remote possibility completely. Richard Dawkins is one.
Massively remote possibility means “0.000000000001% possibility that God exists!”
That is not an atheist thesis.
As regards Dawkins he realized his mistake and his “6”, in the “Delusion,” he corrected to a 6.9 in some interview.
Someone, in this forum, wrote the following:” The idea of a God is just so absurd that I have severe concerns about anyone who gives it any real thought and still sincerely believes,” I copied his sentence but I do beg his pardon because I did not think at the time to note his nick too.
Anyhow, the idea of a God is so absurd that you may not question its absurdity even by only 0.000000000001% uncertainty.
Keep the label “agnostic” but drop the label “atheist”, you need 0% possibility of existence for the latter.
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RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions thread's landfill
December 26, 2011 at 1:57 pm
(This post was last modified: December 26, 2011 at 2:11 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
"god" and "God" are entirely different concepts....hilariously. Many an amusing qualifier can be added with respect to them both. I'm an atheist with regards to either, but an agnostic or gnostic when it comes to the distinction. I don't believe in either concept, but there's only one of them which I can claim knowledge of. Hope that this helps.
(whatever I have to say about the little g is only in relation to the big g, and mostly based upon our complete lack of knowledge. Personally, I don't think that there is such a thing as a little g god, only the big g gods....but I know people would argue for it through clever definitions so I rarely bother.).
Tango, are you seriously attempting the redefinition tap-dance that we so so often on these boards?
agnostic atheism- "meh, it's possible but I don't believe."
gnostic atheism- "this is absolute garbage and I'll show you exactly why."
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