(July 15, 2024 at 8:53 pm)Fireball Wrote:

(July 15, 2024 at 8:06 pm)Jackalope Wrote: I trained in the Army, center of mass was how we were trained.  At 150ish yards with 5.56 and iron sights, center of mass is not very difficult, though I will say a lot of recruits couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from the inside.  An expert marksman could easily make the shot on a non moving target, IMO.

I shot 24 rounds out of a .22 rifle in boot camp.   What a joke. My two eldest sons and I are proficient shooters and qualified Distinguished Marksman for light rifle, and both sons the same for shotgun. They essentially hit ~100% at skeet and trap. Eldest is in the USAF and the only reason he couldn't get sniper designation when shooting in basic is because there are other requirements. Accuracy was only part of it.

(July 15, 2024 at 11:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(July 15, 2024 at 8:06 pm)Jackalope Wrote: I trained in the Army, center of mass was how we were trained.  At 150ish yards with 5.56 and iron sights, center of mass is not very difficult, though I will say a lot of recruits couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from the inside.  An expert marksman could easily make the shot on a non moving target, IMO.

Especially with the M-16/AR-15 setup of a ring in the back, which eases the elevation issues in a very natural manner contrasted against open-v sights, which is what I learnt on as a boy.

It's also a very easy rifle to dial in.

The kid was probably breathing hot.

(July 16, 2024 at 1:13 pm)Mr Greene Wrote:

(July 15, 2024 at 7:39 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: It’s reported the shooter was severely bullied growing up. 

Maybe he thought he could do so good making Trump head into a unfilled donut by killing the biggest bully in the USA

It's reported that he was both "never bullied" and "bullied every day".
The overwhelming impression I got from the interviews of people from his school was; "I have no idea who that guy was but Global Media coverage? Have you got my best side?"
Actual items that have come out; He had no military experience - obvious
Political commentators look for political motives - so far noone found one 
Protection team failed to secure obvious sniper position - conspiracy or incompetence?
Politicians say it's wrong to conduct political violence; so no sending explosive cigars to heads of state or bombing presidential palaces...

(July 15, 2024 at 11:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The kid was probably breathing hot.

(July 16, 2024 at 12:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Boru

(July 18, 2024 at 1:38 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Well, if we are going to go with the "he was bullied defense", perhaps something will finally be done about it.

When Ethans and Ambers and Taylors were getting killed at school by someone who had been bullied, no one in power seemed to give a shit.

Lt. Bone Spurs gets his ear pierced and now we are going to worry about bullying.

We won't get into Trump being one of the biggest bullies wandering about.  

Between the shooting and Biden having COVID again, we have to have a news story to focus on.