(July 17, 2024 at 9:18 pm)Lek Wrote: During the Trump administration, people were doing well and were hopeful. During the Biden administration people have developed a feeling of hopelessness.  

Why do I get the feeling this unevidenced rhetoric is referring to how you felt?

Quote:It's time for people to come together as fellow Americans, not as separate groups according to race, color, nationality, etc. 

Come together how? Do you imagine the divisive and racist rhetoric espoused relentlessly by Trump, is something people of differing ethnicities can unite over? I'd think they should all be equally appalled at least, by his racist bigotry, and misogynistic rhetoric. It is simply comical to try and paint Biden as a source of division, when you're championing a man who espouses divisive and dangerous rhetoric relentlessly. Was it meant as levity?

Quote:All I've seen from Biden and the Dems is pitting one group against another. The country hasn't been this divided since the civil war. All this under the president who was supposed to bring us all together.

Well I am sure you'll understand if even after a short time I don't view your opinion as unbiased. The second sentence just seems like rhetoric, and divided on political issues is not in and of itself a bad thing, especially in a democracy, the last sentence is pretty funny, if Biden loses do you imagine for even a moment that will he violate his oath to the constitution, in the way Trump did when he lost the last election, by inciting his followers to march on the government and fight like hell to stop the peaceful transition of power in a legal election?

I think even you will struggle to spin those facts to imply Biden is the one causing division. Odd how I seem more appalled by that insurrection than you, and I am a UK citizen. If Trump had been jailed for any number of legal infractions that deserve it, he might not now be threatening revenge on political opponents if he again becomes president, and I see nothing in those threats that suggest he wants unity, unless it is solely on his terms. His threats are well documented, and encompasse both the highest ranking officials and ordinary citizens who have exercised their constitutional rights to oppose his political views. 

It's my opinion that Trump is as grave a threat democracy and the US constitution have faced since WWII.

Do you guys really think the repubs are just going to say,

Oh, looks like we lost, we’re out of here, have a nice day!

MAGA are armed and all want to be a hero for king trump.

Lek, you and all of MAGA nation have been fooled into believing 'white replacement' theory. Fits with why you can't recognize the decline and ultimate fall of religion.

Quote:Finally, here’s some context you didn’t hear: When Trump took office in 2017, he inherited the lowest murder rate of any president in half a century. He was then the first president in three decades to finish his term with a higher murder rate than when he started.

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All of that having been said, most of what drove the surge in crime was beyond Trump’s control. But this isn’t a courtesy Trump has given his opponents.

Back in 2016, Trump and his surrogates blamed Barack Obama for a surge in crime that never happened. They’re now doing the same thing to Biden. So it only seems fair to point out that the only major surge in crime in 40 years occurred while Trump was in the White House.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opin...rcna162400

(July 18, 2024 at 8:26 pm)Lek Wrote:

(July 18, 2024 at 8:16 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: So long as it isn't reproductive health care, ofc.  Wink wink, nudge nudge.

I'm curious, what benefits do you think citizens are losing to illegals?

Housing, medical care, jobs

So you didn't mean benefits benefits, just that illegals...you know, rent houses, are allowed in the clinic, and they work?

Honestly, I think you guys would stop losing so bad at the polls if you dropped the racist shit and made it about getting every single citizen those "benefits" - but..ofc...the republican party is also opposed to this and has stood in it's way for decades....so...

I'm talking about housing for the homeless, medical care for the needy and jobs for legal immigrants.

(July 19, 2024 at 12:08 pm)Lek Wrote: I'm talking about housing for the homeless, medical care for the needy and jobs for legal immigrants.

You realize that without a social security number those benefits cannot be disbursed.

Let's face it, you and your Trumpeteer cronies give exactly zero-point-zero fucks about the homeless, the needy, and [i]especially any goddamned foreigners. You're not fooling anyone, Shit-for-Brains.

(July 18, 2024 at 7:18 pm)Lek Wrote: Why was inflation so low under Trump during his last administration?  1.9%

Slow recovery from the 2008 recession, the pandemic, and your central bank keeping interest rates high. It wasn’t anything Trump did - ANY president at that time would have seen low inflation.

Boru

(July 18, 2024 at 8:26 pm)Lek Wrote:

(July 18, 2024 at 8:16 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: So long as it isn't reproductive health care, ofc.  Wink wink, nudge nudge.

I'm curious, what benefits do you think citizens are losing to illegals?

Housing, medical care, jobs

Have you ever been denied housing, medical care, or a job because of illegal immigrants? Do you know anyone who was pushed out of their home or couldn’t see a doctor or got fired because any of those went to an illegal immigrant?

I’ll save you the trouble: the answer to both questions is ‘no’.

Boru

Immigration is good for productivity.