CIA docs claim life did exist on Mars... and it was a population of 'very large people' who built pyramids

The report, 'Mars Exploration May 22, 1984,' details how the agency used astral projection—the idea that a person's spirit can travel through the astral plane—to transport a 'subject' to Mars approximately one million years BC.

The study was part of Project Stargate, a secret US Army unit established in 1977 that focused on anomalous phenomena, including remote viewing, telepathy, and psychokinesis.

The experiment's 'subject' was transported to the planet during the specified year, reporting an 'oblique view of a pyramid' and a 'very large road' with a monument similar to those known among ancient Egyptians on Earth, the report claims.

The vision then shifted to a population of 'very large people' searching for 'a new place to live because their environment was corrupted.'

Project Stargate was the US government's new weapon against the Soviet Union, aimed at creating mind-reading spies who could infiltrate the minds of its enemies.

It shut down in 1995, but during its more than 10-year existence, psychics known as 'remote viewers' participated in a wide array of operations, from locating hostages kidnapped by Islamic terrorist groups to tracing the paths of fugitive criminals within the US.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/...amids.html

Shut down? But it helped the CIA in finding terrorists. Why would they give that up?

Don't you just love when two idiots talk about stuff?

Quote:Joe Rogan Doubts Trump Will Drop UFO Docs, Presses Biden To ‘Release the Hounds!’ In Final WH Days

In an episode of The Joe Rogan Experience podcast this week, Rogan spoke with filmmaker James Fox and during a discussion on Fox’s Moment of Contact documentary and mysterious drone sightings in New Jersey and elsewhere, Rogan pushed for President Joe Biden to bare all when it comes to alien contact.

“He’s been so dismissive of it all. Obama said a lot more about it,” Fox said.

“You know why? Because he’s already in space. He’s in space right now. He’s in orbit around Saturn right now. He’s like Dr. Manhattan, he’s on the moon in a glass house,” Rogan replied.

Fox argued Biden has “nothing to lose” as he’s leaving office. He also noted that the late Harry Reid, a longtime senator, urged presidents in his documentary not to be afraid to speak the truth on the subject of extraterrestrials.

“You’re the president of the United States, sir, release the hounds,” Rogan said of Biden.

Rogan had some doubts when it came to Trump and aliens, calling the man “cagey” on the subject.

“I agree with you, however, when I confronted Mr. Trump, he was very cagey, very cagey… He didn’t tell me shit. It was basically like neither confirm nor deny,” he said.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/he-was...l-wh-days/

(December 28, 2024 at 2:22 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Don't you just love when two idiots talk about stuff?

Quote:Joe Rogan Doubts Trump Will Drop UFO Docs, Presses Biden To ‘Release the Hounds!’ In Final WH Days

In an episode of The Joe Rogan Experience podcast this week, Rogan spoke with filmmaker James Fox and during a discussion on Fox’s Moment of Contact documentary and mysterious drone sightings in New Jersey and elsewhere, Rogan pushed for President Joe Biden to bare all when it comes to alien contact.

“He’s been so dismissive of it all. Obama said a lot more about it,” Fox said.

“You know why? Because he’s already in space. He’s in space right now. He’s in orbit around Saturn right now. He’s like Dr. Manhattan, he’s on the moon in a glass house,” Rogan replied.

Fox argued Biden has “nothing to lose” as he’s leaving office. He also noted that the late Harry Reid, a longtime senator, urged presidents in his documentary not to be afraid to speak the truth on the subject of extraterrestrials.

“You’re the president of the United States, sir, release the hounds,” Rogan said of Biden.

Rogan had some doubts when it came to Trump and aliens, calling the man “cagey” on the subject.

“I agree with you, however, when I confronted Mr. Trump, he was very cagey, very cagey… He didn’t tell me shit. It was basically like neither confirm nor deny,” he said.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/he-was...l-wh-days/

It always astonishes me when people show that they don't know what the U, in UFO stands for, and start making assertions.

(December 22, 2024 at 1:32 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: So the drone scare is the work of aliens stems from a decline in traditional religion like Christianity.

Quote:As Bader, a sociology professor, sees it, one of the main reasons behind the general American embrace of the strange and paranormal is the long-running and steady decline of religious institutions. Churches, he said, can often serve as a kind of dampener on paranormal beliefs: Part of the role of a denomination is to lay out a particular creed. That creed may be supernatural—God, after all, is beyond the realm of scientific proof—but institutional religious doctrine does not usually include any mentions of space aliens.

Now that fewer and fewer people attend religious services, “it’s common in surveys to find someone who says, ‘I believe Jesus is the one and only son of God, and also my house is haunted, and there might be a Bigfoot,’ ” Bader said. “People didn’t use to believe all those things. Churches would say, ‘Here is the correct package of supernatural beliefs you’re allowed to hold.’ ”

In recent years, faith has become more personal, idiosyncratic, and unpredictable. “UFOs and ghosts and psychic powers—as organized religion plummets, those are growing rapidly,” Bader said. “Once you no longer have your church telling you, ‘Here’s what you’re supposed to believe about the world,’ it frees you to explore other things.”

These changes in the American faith landscape help explain the public’s growing belief in the extraterrestrial—and presumably, the belief that the East Coast drones are exactly that.

https://slate.com/life/2024/12/drones-ne...trial.html

But the problem is that these kinds of hysterias existed in the past when Christianity was strong. Like in medieval times when people saw women flying on brooms, or the 19th century phantom airship hysteria when thousands of people across the United States claimed to have observed mysterious airships.

Yes, that is a good point but I think the new “church” thing has become a mix of random priests and online conspiracy spreaders and petrol company tycoons (for the USA).

There has always been a desire to believe in the truth and humans realize that there is one version of the truth. They had to come together at the first council of Nicea to decide what the truth about Jesus was.
Throughout the years, the church(s) had to kill people that think differently or have a document that says something different. I’m sure that the church people have destroyed a lot of documents that didn’t fit into their belief system.
I have probably had conversations online with over 300 christians by now. Some of them think that christianity has been corrupted and that they are somehow believing in the original and correct interpretation of the Bible.
Some of them are not aware of how the Bible came into existence and they think Matthew, Mark, Luke, John wrote the gospels and that they are as reliable as their own parents.

The situation in the USA is interesting. I think it is the evangelists or televangelists along with various internet dudes that determine what to believe.
There is a large set of people who seem to be christian, anti-vax, anti-evolution, anti-science. Somehow, the idea that Donald is the second coming of Jesus has spread. They are all convinced that Joe Biden stole the election in Jan 2020 since their priests guaranteed to them that Donald is Jesus.
For a while, a lot of them believed that the government was going to put RFID chips under our skin.
A lot of them believed that you become magnetic when you take the COVID vaccine.
There is the 5G thing.
A large number of them have told me that christianity is not a religion. It is a relationship.
They all tend to be global warming deniers and that NASA faked the moon landing.
A bunch of them mention the Georgia Guidestones and that the government is going to reduce the population.
In 2020, 2021, 2022, they were telling me the lockdowns are permanent. A lot of them were fighting it by refusing to wear a mask.

It looked like some of them did not know what to believe about the virus. One priest said that the virus doesn’t do any harm. In one video, he says it doesn’t exist it is a hoax. In one video he says Fauci and China are working together to reduce the population.

When I mention that the jewish god is a space alien and that the sons of god came to earth means that they are space aliens, they all seem to resist that notion (the people I talk to).
They say that alien means something else. God means he is immaterial and outside this universe.
I tell them that god is made of whatever else and that he is not in this universe but he is in another universe.
The conversation stops there.

^^^^^I don’t believe in that stuff. I just present new ideas to people.
From what I observed, christians who believe in aliens are rare.

Just wait until Joe Rogan finds out about Leonardo trying to warn us of aliens.

(December 28, 2024 at 11:44 am)Ferrocyanide Wrote: There is a large set of people who seem to be christian, anti-vax, anti-evolution, anti-science. Somehow, the idea that Donald is the second coming of Jesus has spread. They are all convinced that Joe Biden stole the election in Jan 2020 since their priests guaranteed to them that Donald is Jesus.
For a while, a lot of them believed that the government was going to put RFID chips under our skin.
A lot of them believed that you become magnetic when you take the COVID vaccine.
There is the 5G thing.
A large number of them have told me that christianity is not a religion. It is a relationship.
They all tend to be global warming deniers and that NASA faked the moon landing.
A bunch of them mention the Georgia Guidestones and that the government is going to reduce the population.
In 2020, 2021, 2022, they were telling me the lockdowns are permanent. A lot of them were fighting it by refusing to wear a mask.

Until recently, these were roughly distinct communities, with most of them believing that the others were The Problem™ (or part of the conspiracy) and that past circumstance persists today where the lines between them cause friction in the present movement.  Maga was the unifying principle.  A passive way of saying that the only thing which binds them all into a single moral community is their suspicion of the other - a strong belief that they are, somehow, being victimized together. In that context maga and maga conspiracy theorizing are a rational response to a percieved threat. Of outsiders and loons banding together and validating each other in the absence of what they perceive to be mainstream cultural approval. A telling insecurity in and of itself.

They all know better. None of them are as dumb as any of them make it all look.

(December 28, 2024 at 7:30 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Until recently, these were roughly distinct communities, with most of them believing that the others were The Problem™ (or part of the conspiracy) and that past circumstance persists today where the lines between them cause friction in the present movement.  Maga was the unifying principle.  A passive way of saying that the only thing which binds them all into a single moral community is their suspicion of the other - a strong belief that they are, somehow, being victimized together.  In that context maga and maga conspiracy theorizing are a rational response to a percieved threat.  Of outsiders and loons banding together and validating each other in the absence of what they perceive to be mainstream cultural approval.  A telling insecurity in and of itself.  

They all know better.  None of them are as dumb as any of them make it all look.

I guess that MAGA is a strong bonding force between them. It is where they get together and talk to each other about how upset they are about transgenders, gas prices and this and that.
It is too bad that I don’t have my ear to the ground. I can only guess at how 100 million people (republicans) are interacting together.

An interesting example:
It looked to me that the mexican border issue was being talked about once in a while on canadian TV, so I assume it was also mentioned by a USA reporter once a year.
When Donald was running in 2015, it seemed to have turned into a high priority issue. I guess that a republican citizen, day and night, is wondering how many thousands of mexicans got in with bags of drugs and it has been on his mind for 10 y.

An interesting example:
There is also this notion of deep state.
Some random day, this concept must have been spreading on the web, somewhere unknown to me. I think it was someone named Q that started it.
Somehow, the concept spread among churches and republican citizens and 200 million of them know it now.
I think Donald mentioned the deep state a few times to let them know that he is one of the citizens, ready to fight the injustices.
Nobody, republican citizen, fox news, politician republican disagreed with Donald.

I don’t think that anyone can express themselves. Not the fox news. Not the priest like Jim Baker. They all have to go along with it. There is peer pressure.

The churches of the USA are nothing like the catholic church of 1000 y ago. The USA churches and the Jim Baker type don’t have the ability to disagree, they don’t have the ability to burn heretics.
That is the part that sociology professor, Bader, needs to understand.

I find it interesting how these things start. I guess it was Mr Q that made a post about the  “deep state” on some unknown messageboard.
It probably spread to 50 people, then 500 in a few days, then 100,000, then a few millions and it reached TV news and it reached me and people from every country.
At one point, Romana Didulo from Canada picked up the notion and somehow got herself an audience and they fund her delusions.

If the standard news media does not agree with them, they consider the news media as “for sheep”
Evidence for them that the news media is for sheep is that they say ivermectin doesn’t work against COVID. Don’t drink bleach. Don’t think 2-propanol. Don’t shine UV light down your throat.

Quote:They all know better. None of them are as dumb as any of them make it all look.

I imagine that 1/3 of republican citizens are dumb enough to believe any nonsense and the rest just go along with it.
I think Donald is not dumb enough to drink or inject bleach. He took the vaccine. During one of his rallies he said I got the vaccine, it is good. A large number of the people said booooo.
The expression on his face was like “oh.... I miscalculated, let me fix this” and he said but whatever, get the vaccine or don’t get it. You have the choice, you have the freedom.

He was going around advertising of how he was the fastest, the best at getting the vaccine ready. After that, he stopped doing that.

(December 29, 2024 at 12:26 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Somehow, the concept spread among churches and republican citizens and 200 million of them know it now.

Churches used to compete with each other over who had the better ac, but after trump and especially during covid it was go maga or go home and quite literally.  Plenty of us faith leaders discuss this, alot of them discuss it in unfavorable terms, but even among that subset many were still willing to go along with it as essentially the price of business - whether you (or they) see that as saving souls or fleecing marks.  It's not like the idea of a shadowy cabal driving human society into the dirt is a stretch for people who already believe in a devil doing the same, and they'd been looking for thematically appropriate ways to lose their shit since obama. Bringing us handily to the next tidbit-

Quote:I imagine that 1/3 of republican citizens are dumb enough to believe any nonsense and the rest just go along with it.

Republicans respond to political distress by spreading disinformation.  Things that they say they believe are likely false and disseminate anyway. Not even the lunatics are unaware of their string of failed predications and prophecies and claims - hence the need to generate new variations all the time. This would be as true of trumpy cult leaders competing for seats in their dying churches by giving new magic book a maga rewrite as it is for any of the rest of them.

I'll give you the prime example from magas unifying theory as validation. The magats like to contend that there is no such thing as systemic racism. That dei and wokeism and identity politics are a plague. Until you ask them about the plight of The Whites. Then they understand exactly how structural racism works, demand some white dei, and call everyone who mocks them for this racist monsters. They know better, they just don't care.

Churches in the USA seem to run on “There is a problem or “We have an enemy”. They seem to be centers for political activism with satan added.
They might say something like “Obama approves of gay marriages and he is working for the devil.”

I could open a church and say “The intersection at Johnson Boulevard and Samson road is dangerous. It needs a traffic light. The major is working for the devil because he is not installing the traffic light.

Are the churches in the USA dying? It is my understanding that a lot of youtube voted for Donald.

I was looking at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Gaetz

Quote:In 2024, Gaetz condemned schools for promoting what he described as "degenerate LGBT and anti-White propaganda" as he introduced his "National Prayer In School Act".

Once in a while, I encounter republicans who are defending whites.
There is a large number of them that say “All lives matter”.

A number of them are upset that black people say “defund the police”. They tell me that the blacks want a state with no police.
Apparently, in California, they don’t process people who do shoplifting. In New York, you get a slap on the wrist.
I imagine that the republican citizens think that BLM wants to commit crimes (shoplifting) and they want to defund the police.

The funny thing is, on the Matt Gaetz page it says:
“Gaetz tweeted on June 23, 2021 that the FBI should be defunded. At that time, it was investigating him for alleged sex trafficking and having sex with a minor.”

Once in a while, one of them mentions to me the great replacement theory. I guess most of the republican citizens think that they are getting replaced by blacks and mexicans.

2 men were found dead from exposure after looking for Sasquatch

The men, both from Portland, were reported missing by a family member on Christmas Day and were set to return from searching for the legendary creature in eastern Skamania County on Christmas Eve.

A search was launched and a vehicle associated with the two men was found off a road near Willard, Wash.

After a three-day search involving more than 60 people, the bodies of both men, 37 and 59 years old, were found in Gifford Pinchot National Forest, located in the southwestern part of Washington state, in a heavily wooded area, according to the Skamania County Sheriff's Office.

Their cause of death appears to be because of "exposure, based on weather conditions and ill-preparedness," the sheriff's office said.

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/29/nx-s1-524...ch-bigfoot