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Stupid things religious people say
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(March 14, 2025 at 5:54 pm)brewer Wrote:
(March 14, 2025 at 5:24 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: ‘Miracle spring water’ lands Christian TV channel with £150,000 Ofcom fine

A religious TV channel has been fined £150,000 for giving UK airtime to an evangelist selling “miracle spring water” that was claimed to cure illnesses such as lung cancer and diabetes and produce huge financial windfalls.

During two episodes of the show, fronted by the US TV evangelist Peter Popoff and his wife, viewers were repeatedly asked to order the ministry’s miracle spring water.

Those providing the testimonials claimed that pouring the water over their hands brought about recovery from illnesses such as lung cancer, diabetes and intestinal disease, as well as curing drug addiction.

Others said they subsequently came into large sums of money – in one instance $64,000 – started a new business opportunity, received a new home or were “delivered” from student loan debt.

Each time, Popoff repeated or sought to bolster the claims using phrases such as: “Did you hear that? You mean God took care … after you used the miracle spring water?”

The licensee that operates the channel, Word Network Operating Company Inc, initially said its audience was predominantly in the US and it had a “limited understanding” of Ofcom’s concerns, which it attributed to a “matter of cultural or market difference”.

The parent company subsequently said it had taken the decision to change the contract relating to the Peter Popoff Ministries so that it would no longer air on its channel in the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/m...rd-network

Popoff was exposed as a fraud in 1986 by James Randi. Suckers are born (reborn?) every minute.

I will never be surprised by the depths of human stupidity and gullibility.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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(March 14, 2025 at 10:23 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(March 14, 2025 at 5:54 pm)brewer Wrote: Popoff was exposed as a fraud in 1986 by James Randi. Suckers are born (reborn?) every minute.

I will never be surprised by the depths of human stupidity and gullibility.

When you start off by believing that a flying Jew is going to come back and fix everything, the rest is easy.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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Christians pretending to being oblivious to what Christianity is.

Wait, isn't Christianity cult of power disguised as religion?

Quote:A faith hijacked by hate: Why MAGA Christians are a cult of power disguised as religion

In their world, Christianity is not a message of love but a weapon of division. It is not a call to serve the poor, embrace the stranger, or turn the other cheek. Instead, it has become a banner under which they justify their anger toward immigrants, LGBTQ individuals, racial minorities, and anyone who challenges the dominance of the “White” race.

Seriously, when was Christianity message of love? Especially about loving the LGBTQ people? Yeah, they want to love gays by "healing" them from homosexuality. Or "embrace the stranger" - you mean make the stranger give up their religion and culture and embrace your version of Christianity.

Quote:Their leader is not Christ, but a political figure who represents the opposite of everything Christianity was meant to stand for. A man defined by greed, vengeance, and self-interest has become the moral standard for a movement that still insists on calling itself Christian.

You could say the same about the Catholics. Not to mention that Jesus is also defined by vengeance and self-interest. What do you think he built hell for if not vengeance?

Quote:The Christian nationalist movement thrives on the belief that Christianity must dominate the government, the courts, and public life.

Yeah, just like Christianity did in the medieval times and is still striving to be like that.

Quote:It is not enough for them to practice their own religion freely—they demand control over everyone else’s beliefs, behaviors, and identities.

Um, hello. That is what Christianity was always about. Can you name me one example where Christians were like, "Oh, what a nice religion you have. And what a nice set of gods you believe in. Now go and worship those gods in peace and have the religion you want because I totally respect that"?

Or the control about identities. Does anyone think real Christians don't want to control other people's identities? As if they go around and say, "Oh, you identify as a woman, sure, I don't want to control that because I respect that."

Quote:they have fashioned a new Christ — one who looks more like a warrior than a peacemaker. Their version of Jesus carries a rifle, waves an American flag, and seeks vengeance against political enemies.

Jesus did say he is bringing a sword to divide people.

Quote:A non-secular faith hijacked by secular white nationalism

Hey, don't blame this on secularism. So much for loving your neighbor.

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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^Christianity likely would have turned out much more loving and tolerant had Paul died at birth. He was the first non-Christian Christian.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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Exorcised salt!

Quote:Bad dreams? Provincial exorcism office shares tips on how to avoid nightmares

The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of San Fernando (RCASF) – Office of Exorcism shared that people can use exorcised salt if they have “oppressive nightmares.”

According to them, a pinch of the particular salt “may be taken before going to bed” if one is prone to bad dreams.

The exorcism office also said that the exorcised salt “may be sprinkled around the perimeters of the house once a month or once a week in rooms where there are regular occupants.”

Those who want to have an exorcised salt for their spiritual protection can buy rock salt (not iodized) and have a priest exorcise and bless it.

Filipinos can throw a pinch of exorcised salt at the four corners of their bed and pray a cleansing prayer before going to sleep.

The RCASF–Office of Exorcism also reminded the public that they should not be superstitious about blessed or exorcised salts.

“If we admit that we are in spiritual warfare, why wouldn’t we want to make use of the tools and prayers of the Church which would better equip us to protect ourselves?” the exorcism office added.

https://interaksyon.philstar.com/trends-...ad-dreams/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(March 17, 2025 at 10:35 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Exorcised salt!

Quote:Bad dreams? Provincial exorcism office shares tips on how to avoid nightmares

The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of San Fernando (RCASF) – Office of Exorcism shared that people can use exorcised salt if they have “oppressive nightmares.”

According to them, a pinch of the particular salt “may be taken before going to bed” if one is prone to bad dreams.

The exorcism office also said that the exorcised salt “may be sprinkled around the perimeters of the house once a month or once a week in rooms where there are regular occupants.”

Those who want to have an exorcised salt for their spiritual protection can buy rock salt (not iodized) and have a priest exorcise and bless it.

Filipinos can throw a pinch of exorcised salt at the four corners of their bed and pray a cleansing prayer before going to sleep.

The RCASF–Office of Exorcism also reminded the public that they should not be superstitious about blessed or exorcised salts.

“If we admit that we are in spiritual warfare, why wouldn’t we want to make use of the tools and prayers of the Church which would better equip us to protect ourselves?” the exorcism office added.

https://interaksyon.philstar.com/trends-...ad-dreams/

This is a perfect example of why religions (and Trump) like uneducated people.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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Did you know that creationists had their bulldog?

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Heaven’s Gate's now famous statement for their final exit from Earth.

Quote:RED ALERT: Hale-Bopp Brings Closure to Heaven’s Gate. Whether Hale-Bopp has a “companion” or not is irrelevant from our perspective. However, its arrival is joyously very significant to us at “Heaven’s Gate.” The joy is that our Older Member in the Evolutionary Level Above Human (the “Kingdom of Heaven”) has made it clear to us that Hale-Bopp’s approach is the “marker” we’ve been waiting for—the time for the arrival of the spacecraft from the Level Above Human to take us home to “Their World”—in the literal Heavens. Our 22 years of classroom here on planet Earth is finally coming to conclusion—“graduation” from the Human Evolutionary Level. We are happily prepared to leave “this world” and go with Ti’s crew.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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I’m an exorcist… the six signs someone is secretly possessed – and the terrifying case that still haunts my dreams

As an ordained exorcist, the TV priest has learned how to confront fearsome spirits in the unlikeliest of places - and says he has faced ghouls so malevolent they’ve left him fearing for his life.

His viral exorcisms on Discovery+ shows The Yorkshire Exorcist II and Help My House Is Haunted have shocked viewers, but Ian says the truth is even darker than what’s shown on screen.

In one episode, which aired earlier this year, he met with Shaun Williamson, who played Barry Evans on EastEnders, to help cast out a violent spirit from the actor's home.

"I have experienced beds moving and people who have no clue how to speak Latin speak it fluently," he says.

"I have felt the tightness around my throat. I've stuttered or stammered my words because the entities are trying to prevent me from quoting the Bible.

Ian says the spirits and demons he encounters can be so malevolent that it's left him fearing for his and his family's life.

"And I have a rule that whenever I perform an exorcism, I stay away from home overnight just to make sure that I don't bring anything back with me.

"And that has happened before where I've been very confident that I thought I've got rid of that entity, and then it appears in that room with me.

"It then becomes a battle between you and this demonic entity, not another priest, not another colleague with you, not the person who's possessed. Just you and this entity.


6 signs that a person has been possessed by a demonic entity:

1 'Dead eyes'

2 Depression

3 Loss of appetite

4 Isolation

5 Darkness - You will start having an obsession with darkness.

6 Hygiene - There will be a lack of cleanliness.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/33941336/rea...ing-night/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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6 signs that a person has been possessed by a demonic entity:

1 'Dead eyes'

2 Depression

3 Loss of appetite

4 Isolation

5 Darkness - You will start having an obsession with darkness.

6 Hygiene - There will be a lack of cleanliness.
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All of those easily could be from spirit possession.

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Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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