Quote:It's also not denying them humanity acknowledging it has human DNA but isn't yet full human...

Got it; so we can use physical traits to determine who is or isn't *full* human.

Can IQ be applied to that? How about height? Skin color? Hair color? Eyes?

That's not a flag in your profile, is it verfehlt? You are just signifying your love of the colors blonde and blue, the colors of a proper human.

Quote:I note he is determined not to address the fact that the "right to life" he claimed every human has, is not allowed to use the body of other HUMAN BEINGS, against their will to achieve this.

Yes, I tend to skim your posts because unlike Boru you lack the ability to say anything worth responding to (the paragraphs of insults are so 5th grade, I'm sorry man) and you aren't an entertaining troll to interact with like the purple swirl; you just seem like you are crashing out, but this is a good question that someone else quoted you on, so let me get that for you.

"Against their will" implies that women are too ignorant to understand the consequences of sexual intercourse. Whatever views of women *you* might hold, I try not to hold to such barbaric and primitive shit takes. There are a slew of other reasons, but frankly a sexist pig like yourself ain't worth explaining them to.

Now, continue yapping and i'll let you know if I see something interesting to address.

(I hope that got the point across as to why I don't bother responding; why would you to me after a post like that?)

Time to start getting the men pregnant.

Quote:Got it; so we can use physical traits to determine who is or isn't *full* human.

Can IQ be applied to that? How about height? Skin color? Hair color? Eyes?

That's not a flag in your profile, is it verfehlt? You are just signifying your love of the colors blonde and blue, the colors of a proper human.

1. Yup we can use the fact they are yet to fully develop to determine humanity ( no I mean developed not fully matured those are separate things) 

2. No none of those things apply as those are merely various of already developed humans I already answered that line of attack 

3. Your sad attempts at implying I'm a Nazi or implying eugenics fails

4. I also point out that well expect this position it's not even remotely important part of why I'm prochoice more of an aside the fetuses status as a human not  has really no baring on my pro choice stance

Quote:Yes, I tend to skim your posts because unlike Boru you lack the ability to say anything worth responding to (the paragraphs of insults are so 5th grade, I'm sorry man) and you aren't an entertaining troll to interact with like the purple swirl; you just seem like you are crashing out, but this is a good question that someone else quoted you on, so let me get that for you.

"Against their will" implies that women are too ignorant to understand the consequences of sexual intercourse. Whatever views of women *you* might hold, I try not to hold to such barbaric and primitive shit takes. There are a slew of other reasons, but frankly a sexist pig like yourself ain't worth explaining them to.

Now, continue yapping and i'll let you know if I see something interesting to address.

(I hope that got the point across as to why I don't bother responding; why would you to me after a post like that?). 

It has nothing to do with women being ignorant or implying they are ignorant regardless of foreknowledge of the consequences it's still against their will if they are not granted the ability to end the pregnancy freely agreeing to sex or the "possibility" of pregnancy is not an implicit agreement to be pregnant and even if they had sex for that purpose if they are not permitted to reverse the decision it's still against their will and no getting an abortion "dealing with consequences" So nothing he said here is sexist the only one here who's a sexist is the one who wants to control women's bodies

Quote:Cool; so what species does that blastocyst or zygote, microbic as it is, a clump of cells without sentience, belong to?

Merely having human DNA doesn't make something human

Think of the women who were raped and the choice they had...

(March 27, 2025 at 9:47 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Merely having human DNA doesn't make something human

That is certainly a take.

(March 27, 2025 at 9:59 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Think of the women who were raped and the choice they had...

I do.

I don't think of them as political tools for my ideology to be manipulated as an emotional trump card in an argument.

P.o.s.

Quote:Interesting you ignored the word "consent" given the topic; I'll let that slide, but can't help but notice the comedy in it. 

You already consented 

Quote:Yes, taxation has existed for a long time - and for a long time, humans have risen up and killed those who unjustly and nonconsensually levied them upon them. If you know your American history and why we exist as an independent nation you're gonna have some clue on just how serious that issue can get.

You agreed to be part of society and society has taxes .....Deal with it 

Quote:Non sequitur and  argumentum ad passiones; that conclusion does not remotely follow - the idea that the government is the only solution to the problem is a false dilemma relying on a appeal to emotions to try and carry it. There are systems of support that do not required armed coercion.

Nah actually government is the only successful solution  and none of it's  coercion you already to pay taxes when you agreed to be part of society so you listing off fallacies that don't apply fails 


Sum up taxes aren't coercion are not nonconsensual and you de facto agreed to them if you don't like that well go into the wilderness or move to a country without taxes