Stupid things religious people say

[The Architect Of Fate]

"These people" - define them, specifically, who "these people" are.

Everyone who has and can have freaking children

[arewethereyet]

Sounds to me like the weaselman would be all for life as in The Handmaid's Tale.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

@TheWhiteMarten

Absolutely; pre-natal care is an act that is going to require the government to take by force resources from one group of citizens and redistribute it to another group of citizens... that is to say, you are actively harming someone else without their consent to help others. 

ALL government actions require the redistribution of resources, you numbwit. It’s called ‘taxation’ and has been around for a minute.

If you want to object to your taxes helping to fund pre- and post-natal care, go right ahead and object to it. But bear in mind that your objection gives the lie to your claimed pro-child stance. You’re supporting an increase in miscarriage, sickly infants, infant death, and the death of women during childbirth.

Try thinking things through, you ignorant wretch.

Boru

[The Architect Of Fate]

@TheWhiteMarten

Absolutely; pre-natal care is an act that is going to require the government to take by force resources from one group of citizens and redistribute it to another group of citizens... that is to say, you are actively harming someone else without their consent to help others. 

ALL government actions require the redistribution of resources, you numbwit. It’s called ‘taxation’ and has been around for a minute.

If you want to object to your taxes helping to fund pre- and post-natal care, go right ahead and object to it. But bear in mind that your objection gives the lie to your claimed pro-child stance. You’re supporting an increase in miscarriage, sickly infants, infant death, and the death of women during childbirth.

Try thinking things through, you ignorant wretch.

Boru

​Better abolish all taxes then lol. Also, people do get a say about where their taxes go. I wonder how many people are unhappy about having their resources being used to fund Trump's luxury golf trips?

[Sheldon]

@TheWhiteMarten

Absolutely; pre-natal care is an act that is going to require the government to take by force resources from one group of citizens and redistribute it to another group of citizens... that is to say, you are actively harming someone else without their consent to help others. 

ALL government actions require the redistribution of resources, you numbwit. It’s called ‘taxation’ and has been around for a minute.

If you want to object to your taxes helping to fund pre- and post-natal care, go right ahead and object to it. But bear in mind that your objection gives the lie to your claimed pro-child stance. You’re supporting an increase in miscarriage, sickly infants, infant death, and the death of women during childbirth.

Try thinking things through, you ignorant wretch.

Boru

To be fair, he never claimed to be pro child, just anti-choice, (for women at least), or pro-life as they like to misrepresent it. If there is a more a vacuous, and asinine claim, from people determined to increase the risk of fatalities during childbirth, and from poverty thereafter, I am not sure what that would be. They belong to a cult that literally celebrates the torturing to death of a human being, the irony is off the fucking scale. 

I really shouldn't have opened that second bottle of wine... ... but, if a job's worth doing...

[Sheldon]

It's not rhetoric, you need to look the word up, as I am dubious it means what you think it does.

Now can you put together a coherent argument as to how using the phrase, "microscopic clump of insentient cells" as justification to not consider them human and then stating that their humanity is "empty rhetoric" isn't an act of denying qualities of their humanity?

Yes, it is because the phrase is factually correct, since a blastocyst or zygote, is microscopic, it is a clump of cells, and it is insentient. Ipso facto, it is asinine to assert, as you did, that this factually correct statement was "rhetoric"...

I imagine that it's too much to expect, that you will ever stop your ignorant blathering about your misogynistic racist archaic superstitious ideology, but surely even you can Google a simple word definition.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Alright, let's look it up together...




Now can you put together a coherent argument as to how using the phrase, "microscopic clump of insentient cells" as justification to not consider them human and then stating that their humanity is "empty rhetoric" isn't an act of denying qualities of their humanity?

Yes, it is because the phrase "microscopic clump of insentient cells" is factually correct, you fucking loon.

It's also not denying them humanity acknowledging it has human DNA but isn't yet full human is dehumanizing them it's saying it has yet to develop everything needed to be fully human it's at best a potential human


And before he deploys his faux pearl clutching

Disabled people are fully human they are just don't have capacities as the average human

Races and Ethnicities are simply variations

Not being fully mature is not the same as not being fully human yet

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

@TheWhiteMarten


ALL government actions require the redistribution of resources, you numbwit. It’s called ‘taxation’ and has been around for a minute.

If you want to object to your taxes helping to fund pre- and post-natal care, go right ahead and object to it. But bear in mind that your objection gives the lie to your claimed pro-child stance. You’re supporting an increase in miscarriage, sickly infants, infant death, and the death of women during childbirth.

Try thinking things through, you ignorant wretch.

Boru

To be fair, he never claimed to be pro child, just anti-choice, (for women at least), or pro-life as they like to misrepresent it. If there is a more a vacuous, and asinine claim, from people determined to increase the risk of fatalities during childbirth, and from poverty thereafter, I am not sure what that would be. They belong to a cult that literally celebrates the torturing to death of a human being, the irony is off the fucking scale. 

I really shouldn't have opened that second bottle of wine... ... but, if a job's worth doing...

To be fair, he claimed exactly that. Post 1885, this thread (bold mine):

Right; pro-birth simply meaning the successful birth of the human child and it's continued life - as opposed to the opposite, which terminates the pregnancy and thus the life of the child.

Boru

[Sheldon]

To be fair, he never claimed to be pro child, just anti-choice, (for women at least), or pro-life as they like to misrepresent it. If there is a more a vacuous, and asinine claim, from people determined to increase the risk of fatalities during childbirth, and from poverty thereafter, I am not sure what that would be. They belong to a cult that literally celebrates the torturing to death of a human being, the irony is off the fucking scale. 

I really shouldn't have opened that second bottle of wine... ... but, if a job's worth doing...

To be fair, he claimed exactly that. Post 1885, this thread (bold mine):

Right; pro-birth simply meaning the successful birth of the human child and it's continued life - as opposed to the opposite, which terminates the pregnancy and thus the life of the child.

Boru

Ah, my apologies, I try not to read everything he's posted, lest I become infected with the stupidity...

I note he is determined not to address the fact that the "right to life" he claimed every human has, is not allowed to use the body of other HUMAN BEINGS, against their will to achieve this. 

If someone needed a kidney, and his was the only match, would he be fine with laws that allow them to harvest it against his will? 

Or would he deny them the right that (he says) we grant all human beings, to live? 

Let the tap dancing and evasion commence, and some more wine for me yayyyy!

[Sheldon]

Can you explain why pre-natal care is not the job of the state, but forced birth is?

Government-mandated maternal leave is favoured by a sizable majority of Americans.

I was unaware that auto insurance companies issue loans.

The numbers of abortions per year pales beside the number of infant/child deaths per year due to malnutrition, disease, etc. This is why you aren't pro-life, but merely pro-birth.

'If you're pre-born, you're fine. If you're pre-school, you're fucked.' - George Carlin.

Boru

"The number of people killed over the last two centuries in the name of secular ideologies has dwarfed by magnitudes those killed in the name of religion,

I very much doubt that is true, but since neither group believed in mermaids, those fuckers must be the most bloodthirsty of all then, by your rationale.  

Do you have any grasp, of how stupid your claim above is, or why? Even if it weren't made up and erroneous bullshit?

I'd bet this half bottle of wine you don't...