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In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
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 (May 4, 2025 at 1:22 pm)Angrboda Wrote:(May 4, 2025 at 1:16 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If you’re looking for a fight, sorry, but I can’t accommodate you. And I’m GenX. Thank you! Boru
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 (May 4, 2025 at 1:22 pm)Angrboda Wrote: I can see both sides. Take the example of a unicorn. If one is going by a strict definition of a creature that has all the attributes of the mythical animal, a white, single-horned, horse-like creature that can only be captured by a virgin, then the odds of such are fairly slim. On the other hand, if one means a single horned quadruped that is similar enough to the legend to have given rise to the legend, then the possibilities are broader. So it really depends on whether you mean a head that is a literal plastic beach ball, or a head that only resembles a beach ball. I thought I cleared that up earlier. Hey ho. Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
Maybe this will move the discussion along.
From the Rules: Quote: In the interests of communication, we ask that members do not diverge from definitions of words that are found in established dictionaries. Boru
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 RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 4, 2025 at 2:01 pm
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(May 4, 2025 at 1:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Maybe this will move the discussion along. It was implied by the discussion that one was diverging from such already, so I don't see this quotation of the rules as relevant. Technically speaking, whether an animal has a head that resembles a beach ball, or a head that literally is a beach ball, either way one has already departed from dictionary definitions. Either animal or organism would be classified as a different species, and presuming the reasoning abilities of cladists has not gone on holiday, it wouldn't be an elephant. The hypothetical only makes sense if one is already speaking in terms of an organism that only resembles an elephant in part. Otherwise it's a rather pedestrian exercise in taxonomy. ![[Image: extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/zf86M5L7/extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg) RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 4, 2025 at 2:02 pm
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(May 4, 2025 at 1:46 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Refer to the article if it isn't immediately obvious. Christ, faith chutes, elephant balls, and now unicorns....but..strangely, not ariel. The only thing that's obvious here is we now have to wonder what you have against mermaids. I don't get it, there doesn't seem to be a silly thing you won't believe in but you're choking up on fish people?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 (May 4, 2025 at 12:31 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:Possibility has to be demonstrated, it would be absurd to simply presuppose it, for anything.(May 4, 2025 at 12:17 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: What's the problem, are you incapable of talking about your faith without this sort of nonsense? RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 4, 2025 at 2:07 pm
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(May 4, 2025 at 2:01 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Otherwise it's a rather pedestrian exercise in taxonomy. It's an exercise in the difference between conceivability and possibility. John wants to argue for conceivability, and take that as a pass for possibility, and not just logical possibility, but actual possibility. He would like to clear the 1 inch bar of "whatever the fuck john or the houscat can imagine" and be credited for nine feet of cold hard christ irl.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(May 4, 2025 at 1:03 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:(May 4, 2025 at 12:53 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: I think square circles are impossible. But they're neither conceivable in my imagination, nor could I rationally seek evidence for them. One could simply presuppose they are possible, then insist they transcend mathematics, geometry and language. RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 4, 2025 at 2:11 pm
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(May 4, 2025 at 12:31 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:(May 4, 2025 at 12:17 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: What's the problem, are you incapable of talking about your faith without this sort of nonsense? Sucks for your god, then. I think you really might want to do some work on your faith before you try to stand up for it with the heathens - and I mean that in a genuine and understanding way. I'm absolutely sure that your beliefs are not as silly as you feel compelled to present them as. They may be wrong, they may even be impossible, but I find it hard to believe that you, as a believer, are so completely unserious about it. That your actions here reflect the contempt you hold us all in, and not the contents of your faith.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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