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In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 4, 2025 at 2:43 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 4, 2025 at 2:38 pm)Sheldon Wrote: Which word is tripping you up? 

The entire noun phrase.
Google the definition of each word, this should help.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 4, 2025 at 2:38 pm)Sheldon Wrote: A bizarre and pointless analogy, just offer the best evidence you think you have for believing a deity exists or is possible.

Surely, if you ademantly request objective evidence of possibility, you can also exemplify the request. The elephant analogy ought to be simple enough.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
"Christ isn't out of order, objective evidence of possibility is out of order!"

If you're going to consistently argue that these things are not informative or credible or appropriate with respect to your god, then why spend any effort trying to make god conform to them John?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 4, 2025 at 2:57 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 4, 2025 at 2:38 pm)Sheldon Wrote: A bizarre and pointless analogy, just offer the best evidence you think you have for believing a deity exists or is possible.

Surely, if you ademantly request objective evidence of possibility, you can also exemplify the request.

So you can't conceive of any objective evidence to demonstrate, that the deity you imagine exists, is in fact possible, and so you're asking me, someone who does not believe any deity or deities are possible, as I have see no such evidence, to offer you some as an example? 

That's comedy gold, fair play.

FYI I already know elephants are possible, it is an objective fact. That's why the analogy is pointless. You seem to be asking me would I think something is possible, if you magically removed all objective evidence that it is possible, and of its existence, which is again comedy gold, as you surely by now must know the answer to that.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 4, 2025 at 3:04 pm)Sheldon Wrote: ...so you're asking me, someone who does not believe any deity or deities are possible, to offer you some as an example? 

Yes. Prove the possibility of elephants, with objective evidence, in a world in which they no longer exist.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 4, 2025 at 3:04 pm)Sheldon Wrote: FYI I already know elephants are possible.

Perfect, then this should be easy enough. Surely, you developed object permanence in childhood, and can fathom that elephants continue to be possible even if we hide them all, right?
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 4, 2025 at 3:09 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 4, 2025 at 3:04 pm)Sheldon Wrote: So you can't conceive of any objective evidence to demonstrate, that the deity you imagine exists, is in fact possible, and so you're asking me, someone who does not believe any deity or deities are possible, to offer you some as an example? 

Yes. Prove the possibility of elephants, with objective evidence, in a world in which they no longer exist.
No thanks, your imaginary scenario, has nothing to do with your failure to offer one word to support your  unevidenced claim that your faith in the existence of a deity is justified, or that such a deity, or any deity come to that, is even possible.

I am cool with this, I was an atheist before, and still am, and for the same reasons.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 4, 2025 at 3:12 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 4, 2025 at 3:04 pm)Sheldon Wrote: FYI I already know elephants are possible.

Perfect, then this should be easy enough.
No thanks, if you want to deny objective facts, I am fine with that.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 4, 2025 at 3:24 pm)Sheldon Wrote: No thanks, your imaginary scenario...

Surely, you can imagine scenarios, can you not?
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
I can imagine fucking marilyn monroe. On a scale of one-jesus christ you're thick...rank the possibility for me?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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