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I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
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RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
Every time I see that a new post is made in this thread and I see the title, I keep thinking this:

I used to have a neutral stance with religion, but I took an...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSDfxde8fSg
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

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#32
RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
(January 2, 2012 at 1:25 am)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote: Every time I see that a new post is made in this thread and I see the title, I keep thinking this:

I used to have a neutral stance with religion, but I took an...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSDfxde8fSg

LMAO AHAHA I felt horrible laughing at such violence! Lol But i seriously do not understand where this whole "arrow to the knee" came from. I swear on every video i watch, there is always someone that commented saying that. It is frustrating when you dont know why or or where it comes from.
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#33
RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
Please someone tell me that 'meme' hasn't spread to here as well; you can't move on YouTube without taking an arrow to the... no! I will not submit!

(January 2, 2012 at 1:59 am)passionatefool Wrote: LMAO AHAHA I felt horrible laughing at such violence! Lol But i seriously do not understand where this whole "arrow to the knee" came from. I swear on every video i watch, there is always someone that commented saying that. It is frustrating when you dont know why or or where it comes from.

It's a reference to the popular (and one would think compulsory) Skyrim thing that'll be replaced by something else before long. With any luck.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#34
RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
(December 31, 2011 at 1:47 pm)gale Wrote: My life's goal is now to tear religion from anyone I can... and I will use my flawless logic to tear down anyone in my path.

Christianity is the religion I dislike the most, as it is the most prevalent in my area of the world. My battle will be primarily against them, but rest assured, I dislike all religions equally.

I realize what religions are. One, a crutch for the weak minded who don't want to think for themselves. Two, a system to siphon wealth from the masses. Three, a way to control people.

I told a christian friend this a few days ago, and I mean it 100%. If there is a christian god in this universe, I would rather burn in hell for eternity than serve him. I would be happy being a misfit in lucifer's army. I would pledge my everlasting will in his cause in every effort to usurp the unjust ruler of the world. The "god" I would worship, is a god that is beyond all that trivial stuff. My supreme being, would be loving to all. End of sentence. No hell. None of that. But let it be known, I would only convert to "satanic" upon being immersed in hell and seeing it for myself. I will live this life fully non-religious.

How can christians call "god" the purest form of love in the universe when I am capable of more love than he is? I didn't create a hell and create an unfair dice-roll(pick a religion, god!) for him to get sent there.

So your talking about conservative Christianity, not moderate-liberal Christianity?

Quote:Christians can't even look at all the evidence that their religion is a carbon copy of dozens of religions before it that are all sun-worshipping religions. Seriously, go to youtube and check this video out. It's amazing. It's also, factual. Cross reference it.

Honestly I have seen this claim so many times before (sorry I didn't watch the video) and I pretty much think it BS. I think the similarities were made up by some new atheists. Fair enough if I am proven wrong though.
"Thou believest in love as a divine attribute because thou thyself lovest; thou believest that God is a wise, benevolent being because thou knowest nothing better in thyself than benevolence and wisdom." - L.Feuerbach
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#35
RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
(January 3, 2012 at 5:47 pm)Paradoxum Wrote:
Quote:Christians can't even look at all the evidence that their religion is a carbon copy of dozens of religions before it that are all sun-worshipping religions. Seriously, go to youtube and check this video out. It's amazing. It's also, factual. Cross reference it.

Honestly I have seen this claim so many times before (sorry I didn't watch the video) and I pretty much think it BS. I think the similarities were made up by some new atheists. Fair enough if I am proven wrong though.

So you dismiss the video without watching it. How very Christian of you. It's actually not BS. The similarities were there for a long time. Atheists just pointed them out.

You seem like you're trapped in your god box to me. I know it's a warm and comforting blanket, but world history wasn't written or changed by atheists.
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#36
RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
(January 3, 2012 at 5:59 pm)aleialoura Wrote: So you dismiss the video without watching it. How very Christian of you. It's actually not BS. The similarities were there for a long time. Atheists just pointed them out.

You seem like you're trapped in your god box to me. I know it's a warm and comforting blanket, but world history wasn't written or changed by atheists.

Did I say I was a Christian? I disbelieve more than I believe, though I still have same belief still left in me that I am slowly losing. Your are right that the God box is warm and comforting, I had a very love Christian upbringing and it rather sad to leave it. I still call the Horus story BS though and as I said, I had heard it all before. There are too many similarities for it to be anything but made up. The comparison I mean.

Get me some credible links with credible Egyptian professors and I may believe you. Even get me a credible translation of the text which says these things. If it is true then it is the best candidate to destroy Christianity.

Here's a link to something that may or may not be biased: http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/Jesus...aviors.htm, click on dying and rising gods at the top.

"On the "dying and rising gods" motif the Encyclopedia of Religion (1987) concludes:

"The category of dying and rising gods, once a major topic of scholarly investigation, must now be understood to have been largely a misnomer based on imaginative reconstructions and exceedingly late or highly ambiguous texts....In most cases, the decipherment and interpretation of texts in the language native to the deity's cult has led to questions as to the applicability of the category. The majority of evidence for Near Eastern dying and rising deities occurs in Greek and Latin texts of late antiquity, usually post-Christian in date." ("Dying and Rising Gods", volume 4, pages 521, 522 article by Jonathan Z. Smith, from The Encyclopedia of Religion, edited by Mircea Eliade, emphasis added)"



"Thou believest in love as a divine attribute because thou thyself lovest; thou believest that God is a wise, benevolent being because thou knowest nothing better in thyself than benevolence and wisdom." - L.Feuerbach
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RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
(December 31, 2011 at 1:47 pm)gale Wrote: My life's goal is now to tear religion from anyone I can... and I will use my flawless logic to tear down anyone in my path.

Christianity is the religion I dislike the most, as it is the most prevalent in my area of the world. My battle will be primarily against them, but rest assured, I dislike all religions equally.

I realize what religions are. One, a crutch for the weak minded who don't want to think for themselves. Two, a system to siphon wealth from the masses. Three, a way to control people.

I told a christian friend this a few days ago, and I mean it 100%. If there is a christian god in this universe, I would rather burn in hell for eternity than serve him. I would be happy being a misfit in lucifer's army. I would pledge my everlasting will in his cause in every effort to usurp the unjust ruler of the world. The "god" I would worship, is a god that is beyond all that trivial stuff. My supreme being, would be loving to all. End of sentence. No hell. None of that. But let it be known, I would only convert to "satanic" upon being immersed in hell and seeing it for myself. I will live this life fully non-religious.

How can christians call "god" the purest form of love in the universe when I am capable of more love than he is? I didn't create a hell and create an unfair dice-roll(pick a religion, god!) for him to get sent there.

Christians can't even look at all the evidence that their religion is a carbon copy of dozens of religions before it that are all sun-worshipping religions. Seriously, go to youtube and check this video out. It's amazing. It's also, factual. Cross reference it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-17BNU7L6g


I hope that by the time I die(I am only 28), atheism is accepted across the globe.
So you think that you own some sort of a monopoly that distributes this flawless logic.
I wish you success with your new establishment of logic distribution.
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#39
RE: I used to have a neutral stance with religion.
(January 3, 2012 at 6:53 pm)Paradoxum Wrote:
(January 3, 2012 at 5:59 pm)aleialoura Wrote: So you dismiss the video without watching it. How very Christian of you. It's actually not BS. The similarities were there for a long time. Atheists just pointed them out.

You seem like you're trapped in your god box to me. I know it's a warm and comforting blanket, but world history wasn't written or changed by atheists.

Did I say I was a Christian?

Nope, but you kinda sound like one to me.

Quote: I disbelieve more than I believe, though I still have same belief still left in me that I am slowly losing. Your are right that the God box is warm and comforting, I had a very love Christian upbringing and it rather sad to leave it.

I understand.

Quote: I still call the Horus story BS though and as I said, I had heard it all before. There are too many similarities for it to be anything but made up. The comparison I mean.

You should just read some books about Horus and see if you can spot any similarities. Horus is just one god of many throughout history. They're all pretty fascinating and most of them make the Jesus story look pretty boring by comparison.

Quote:Get me some credible links with credible Egyptian professors and I may believe you. Even get me a credible translation of the text which says these things. If it is true then it is the best candidate to destroy Christianity.

You said you'd heard it all before, so even if we did get you some links with credible Egyptology professors, would you even click them? You've probably seen them, so...
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