He forgot to add infantcide

(May 6, 2025 at 3:19 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:

(May 6, 2025 at 3:08 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Atheists - by definition - don’t have a relationship with God.

That doesn't mean they're outside the relational framework. As long as you understand the interaction I'm highlighting, you can label it whatever you want.

It means exactly that we’re outside the relational framework. Since we don’t ask God for things, or thank God, or tell God how great he is, there’s no interaction.

Also, it’s a bit presumptuous of you to assume that atheists are atheists because the prayers we don’t get answers to prayers we don’t make.

Boru

(May 6, 2025 at 4:11 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: He forgot to add infantcide

Guess I'm 2-0 now. I knew I was right, but I didn't think the thread would be so quick to demonstrate it.

(May 6, 2025 at 3:46 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: My statement has predictive power, and I'll gladly put money on it. You ask any number of participants if they agree with the positive set of adjectives or negative set of adjectives describing the God of the Bible, and whether they self-identify as atheist or theist, and you will get a significant correlation.

And as a bonus, do the same with Sheldon's claims, like whether they have an "ability to deny objective reality, no matter how well evidenced, if it contradicts their beliefs."

My single variable vs all of his. $1,000 per person. Who wants to join?

No bet - I saw you palm that card.

Boru

(May 6, 2025 at 4:28 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:

(May 6, 2025 at 4:11 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: He forgot to add infantcide

Guess I'm 2-0 now. I knew I was right, but I didn't think the thread would be so quick to demonstrate it.

When are we getting our cash? Your claims about atheists ranged from outright bullshit, to straw man claims, the adjectives describing the deity depicted in the bible are factual, but as I sated unequivocally, these fictions have no bearing on my atheism. you seem to have missed the part where I stated unequivocally the only reason I need to remain disbelieving, is the dearth of objective evidence any deity exists or is possible, so it seems you have read my posts with the same care you have read the bible. 

You have failed to even try and address your own denials of objective reality, let alone over 45% of adults in the US, based on their superstitious beliefs. 

You really do imagine you can bluff your way through anything, bizarre. 

Pony up the cash, bro...

(May 6, 2025 at 3:46 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: My statement has predictive power, and I'll gladly put money on it. You ask any number of participants if they agree with the positive set of adjectives or negative set of adjectives describing the God of the Bible, and whether they self-identify as atheist or theist, and you will get a significant correlation.

And as a bonus, do the same with Sheldon's claims, like whether they have an "ability to deny objective reality, no matter how well evidenced, if it contradicts their beliefs."

My single variable vs all of his. $1,000 per person. Who wants to join?

I'm an atheist, and I don't have any relationship with god, positive or negative. We can replace me with any of the vast number of people who have lived, utterly unaware of or unconcerned about your deity, and find exactly the same answer. So many Mayans, Aztecs, Hindus, Polynesians, Buddhists, etc. that just couldn't care less.

(May 6, 2025 at 4:35 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(May 6, 2025 at 3:46 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: My statement has predictive power, and I'll gladly put money on it. You ask any number of participants if they agree with the positive set of adjectives or negative set of adjectives describing the God of the Bible, and whether they self-identify as atheist or theist, and you will get a significant correlation.

And as a bonus, do the same with Sheldon's claims, like whether they have an "ability to deny objective reality, no matter how well evidenced, if it contradicts their beliefs."

My single variable vs all of his. $1,000 per person. Who wants to join?

I'm an atheist, and I don't have any relationship with god, positive or negative. We can replace me with any of the vast number of people who have lived, utterly unaware of or unconcerned about your deity, and find exactly the same answer. So many Mayans, Aztecs, Hindus, Polynesians, Buddhists, etc. that just couldn't care less.

He simply doesn't understand atheism or atheists at all. One can despise the attributes assigned a fictional deity, but they have nothing to do with why one disbelieves that deity exists. 

The extra challenge he added about theists denying objective reality, was a lost bet the minute he made it. 

Anyway, I have to be up early to travel for work tomorrow, just as well as he was never going to honour his bet.

Has the forum never seen a scale before? Surely, everyone knows zero and none are still valid measures within any scale. You don't just magically fall off the scale if you don't have a positive mark. If a form asks for your marital status, single people just mark single, they don't go on obtuse rants about how they have no marital status or are outside the marital status framework.

Were not even on the scale if a form asks me my martial status I put not in any form of relationship because I'm outside the relationship scale. We don't have any form of relationship with your magic sky pixie so deal with it

Quote:My statement has predictive power, and I'll gladly put money on it. You ask any number of participants if they agree with the positive set of adjectives or negative set of adjectives describing the God of the Bible, and whether they self-identify as atheist or theist, and you will get a significant correlation.

No you won't 

Quote:And as a bonus, do the same with Sheldon's claims, like whether they have an "ability to deny objective reality, no matter how well evidenced, if it contradicts their beliefs."

You'll get the same answer there will be no correlation because it's fantasy into your head 

Quote:My single variable vs all of his. $1,000 per person. Who wants to join?

Lol as if your ever going to pay