(May 14, 2025 at 5:15 pm)Sarah Copper Wrote: Hello, I am a Christian looking to have a conversation with an athesit for a school assignment. Just send your email and I'd love to chat!

(May 14, 2025 at 4:38 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Are you saying that if you control language, you control thought? I did see this earlier, but I wanted to tackle conditioning first.

If you load language, for instance by endlessly repeating that "Democrats are Marxists or Communists," or that "Christians are good and atheists are bad" (whether in so many words or otherwise), then you are trying to control people's thoughts.  

Per Google: " 'Loaded language' refers to words or phrases that carry strong emotional weight or connotations, both positive and negative, beyond their literal meaning. It's a persuasive technique that aims to influence an audience by evoking strong feelings and reactions."

Some religious people do this routinely, so they are trying to indoctrinate people. Even calling it "The Holy Bible" or Jesus "the son of God" is that kind of rhetoric. Such phrases beg all the questions.

Demagogues like Trump employ this technique all the time, among others.

Again, it's a numbers game. If people are well-enough informed about human psychology, they will see through such manipulations. Others can be manipulated, since so many people let their emotional reactions guide them.

Apparently Johnny thinks people can't be fooled into stupid beliefs ......Deluded

(May 14, 2025 at 5:15 pm)Sarah Copper Wrote: Hello, I am a Christian looking to have a conversation with an athesit for a school assignment. Just send your email and I'd love to chat!

 Try making a intro thread, also, no

(May 14, 2025 at 8:53 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:

(May 14, 2025 at 8:37 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Propaganda works on everyone you boring troll.

Everybody except you, right? You're the only one that can see past the fog and refuses to fall in line.

I haven't just been propagandized, I've been indoctrinated..and officially so no less.  You'll never learn, will you? Has that experience given me any insight into how and when it's happening with other people? Do bears shit in the woods?

Isolation, segregation, flattery, admonishment, call and response, loyalty checks, associative and dissociative programming...these things are worn down to the nubs in christendom and they also happen to be how you get two sweet little kids prepped to kill each other. It's not a coincidence. Christianity is an aggressive, expansionary, and life denying faith. The so-called army of christ has not, for most of christian history, been a metaphor. I've been watching in horror of late, as so many of the people in my life have been bullshitted into thinking that they're putting on the full armor of god by complying with their separatist handlers batshit pronouncements. We've got the mad king over here cracking jokes about popes..but I don't see the point. He's already got the job with none of the responsibilities, a testament to the strength of christian propaganda and indoctrination that a serial adulterer, rapist, and thief is god-sent to lead them.

Christianity is making you guys crazy, and you're here to show us your ass.

(May 14, 2025 at 6:56 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I haven't just been propagandized, I've been indoctrinated..and officially so no less. 

And yet here you are.

(May 14, 2025 at 5:15 pm)Sarah Copper Wrote: Hello, I am a Christian looking to have a conversation with an athesit for a school assignment. Just send your email and I'd love to chat!

I don't think there's anyone here interested in doing your homework for you.

Quote:And yet here you are.

Irrelevant

(May 14, 2025 at 4:06 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:

(May 14, 2025 at 3:33 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'll do as I wish on my own schedule. 

No, you did as I predicted—both times. Remember what I said about people being motivated to seek autonomy? Your autonomy was undermined when I said you should stop engaging with me (the very thing you intended to do.) And how do you recover a sense of autonomy after that? Well, by engaging and asserting that you can do as you wish.

And here you asserting that you control my behavior as if I'm incapable of deciding whether or not to pursue my agenda regardless of your obvious attempt to play master troll. Because I know you'd love to see me shut up, and are doing your level-best to make that happen, so I -- wait for it, Mr Supreme Psychologist -- changed my mind. And I'll change it again, when I think it serves my purposes most effectively.

You think you're the first troll angling for the puppet-master spot on your bingo card?

(May 14, 2025 at 7:37 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote:

Quote:And yet here you are.

Irrelevant

Some people are bound to notice the heavy-handed techniques they are subject to.  Propaganda and indoctrination are numbers games, not guaranteed to work with everyone.