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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 19, 2025 at 3:06 pm
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What Was there a topic to this thread?
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 19, 2025 at 3:26 pm
(May 19, 2025 at 3:06 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: What there a topic to this thread?
All topics. Next up: Ferris Wheels - Amusement Park Ride, or Whirling Death Trap?
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 19, 2025 at 3:33 pm
It's not hard to follow a conversation: Beliefs → Propaganda → Autonomy → Free Will
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 19, 2025 at 4:11 pm
(May 19, 2025 at 2:15 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: (May 19, 2025 at 1:03 pm)emjay Wrote: The underlying laws of physics, whatever they are, or whatever they turn out to be, determine what happens next. Not theories about them, competing or otherwise, but the actual underlying laws, set in stone, whether we understand them or not...
The problem here is that you cannot be open to whatever they turn out to be and also assume to know they will be deterministic. And you cannot suggest we may or may not understand them, then speak as if we already understand they're deterministic.
I think the phrases I've highlighted commit you to a more neutral stance.
Sorry I have no interest in playing any more semantic word games with you. It was a simple statement and everyone understands what I meant except you. So try and muddy the waters somewhere else... I'm done here.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 19, 2025 at 4:35 pm
(May 19, 2025 at 4:11 pm)emjay Wrote: I'm done here.
Don't blame me for your sloppy work. Goodbye lol.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 19, 2025 at 4:42 pm
(May 19, 2025 at 11:54 am)arewethereyet Wrote: (May 19, 2025 at 11:49 am)Alan V Wrote: He could be a bad psychologist. 
I lean more toward believing he's a psycho.
Considering how we've been trading insults, I don't think either of us is qualified to be a therapist.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 19, 2025 at 4:45 pm
(May 19, 2025 at 1:03 pm)emjay Wrote: I'm so used to making faux pas's on these forums that I usually just essentially say 'Sod it' and let them slide 
We can't please everyone no matter how hard we try.
In my case, I seem to annoy people even more by trying harder.
So yes, sod it.
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 19, 2025 at 4:47 pm
(May 19, 2025 at 4:42 pm)Alan V Wrote: Considering how we've been trading insults..
You felt insulted that I corrected you on cognitive dissonance? That's silly, don't you think?
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 19, 2025 at 6:39 pm
(May 19, 2025 at 4:45 pm)Alan V Wrote: (May 19, 2025 at 1:03 pm)emjay Wrote: I'm so used to making faux pas's on these forums that I usually just essentially say 'Sod it' and let them slide 
We can't please everyone no matter how hard we try.
In my case, I seem to annoy people even more by trying harder.
So yes, sod it. 
I used to be passionate about all this stuff; philosophy, psychology, neuroscience, etc, and as a result, I would say, quite knowledgeable, but at some point, who knows, maybe I took a knock on the head or something, but it's just not there for me any more. So he's right, my work is indeed sloppy... it's just remnants of a bygone era, probably better off left unsaid.
Nowadays my passion is learning German, not debating religion... that's where I find my peace; in the endless intricacies of this beautiful language. I recently bought a collection of German board games, for the sake of a bit of immersion in their cultural history, and I really should take the advice of one of them, which I've just been playing tonight. It's called "Mensch ärgere Dich nicht", it's basically a slightly more involved version of the game "Ludo", and it basically translates as "Man (or dude), don't get angry!" (ie when your pieces get bumped off the board, back to the home area). I got angry, I shouldn't have, little good ever comes from it in my experience.
So yeah, sod it
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RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
May 19, 2025 at 7:09 pm
It's important to pick the people who are worth trying to talk sense with.
Trolls and the resident lover of trolls...aren't among those people.
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