(May 21, 2025 at 3:46 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: As hilarious as light without a source sounds it's probably the least of the crimes against reason that this bronze-age creation myth is guilty of.

Not only can light have a multitude of sources besides the Sun (the premise of my argument), light is always independent from it's source. Surely, you know many of the stars we see at night no longer exist. The source is gone, all that's left is unshackled, independent light crossing the universe.

(May 21, 2025 at 3:51 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:

(May 21, 2025 at 3:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Form follows function, and since the inchoate something-or-other was described as ‘without form, it wasn’t Earth.

What even is this argument? I'll concede only if you accept that the earth is only a day old: I changed the earth's form yesterday when I dug a hole in the garden.

Well, that was incoherent and stupid.

Boru

(May 21, 2025 at 3:58 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:

(May 21, 2025 at 3:46 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: As hilarious as light without a source sounds it's probably the least of the crimes against reason that this bronze-age creation myth is guilty of.

Not only can light have a multitude of sources besides the Sun (the premise of my STRAW MAN

This straw man is ignoring the context, unless you can evidence another source of light that sustains vegetation on this planet? 

Quote: light is always independent from it's source. 

Magically? I mean dullard that I am, the word source suggests something to me John? 

Quote:Surely, you know many of the stars we see at night no longer exist. The source is gone, all that's left is unshackled, independent light crossing the universe.

And you think this could sustain vegetation on this planet without our sun, seriously? Is this where you've been heading? 
All this to lend the absurd claims in the creation myth in Genesis some credibility, so as to deny scientific facts about the age of the earth.

(May 21, 2025 at 3:58 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:

(May 21, 2025 at 3:46 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: As hilarious as light without a source sounds it's probably the least of the crimes against reason that this bronze-age creation myth is guilty of.

Not only can light have a multitude of sources besides the Sun (the premise of my argument), light is always independent from it's source. Surely, you know many of the stars we see at night no longer exist.

None of them most likely. Almost all of the few thousand stars in the night sky are within a few hundred light-years of Earth. With a very few exceptions, all of the starlight that you see originated from after the reign of Queen Victoria.

Quote:The source is gone, all that's left is unshackled, independent light crossing the universe.

Not unless you're invoking an unusually high and lethal supernova rate.

Want to try rocks next?

Supernova vs Bronze-Age Deity

Now there's a match I'd love to watch.

(May 21, 2025 at 4:06 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well, that was incoherent and stupid.

I'll slow it down a bit for you: If changing form redefines Earth, then I unmade Earth yesterday by digging a hole. Congrats on the metaphysics.

(May 21, 2025 at 4:11 pm)Paleophyte Wrote:

(May 21, 2025 at 3:58 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Not only can light have a multitude of sources besides the Sun (the premise of my argument), light is always independent from it's source. Surely, you know many of the stars we see at night no longer exist.

None of them most likely. Almost all of the few thousand stars in the night sky are within a few hundred light-years of Earth. With a very few exceptions, all of the starlight that you see originated from after the reign of Queen Victoria.

Quote:The source is gone, all that's left is unshackled, independent light crossing the universe.

Not unless you're invoking an unusually high and lethal supernova rate.

Want to try rocks next?

COUGH wavelength COUGH!

COUGH redshift COUGH!

He doesn't slowed down you need your reasoning skills overhauled so they make freaking sense

Apparently light just magically exists .....

(May 21, 2025 at 4:24 pm)Sheldon Wrote:

(May 21, 2025 at 4:11 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: None of them most likely. Almost all of the few thousand stars in the night sky are within a few hundred light-years of Earth. With a very few exceptions, all of the starlight that you see originated from after the reign of Queen Victoria.


Not unless you're invoking an unusually high and lethal supernova rate.

Want to try rocks next?

COUGH wavelength COUGH!

COUGH redshift COUGH!

Don't go shifting the local cluster. Nothing good will come from that!