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Stupid things religious people say
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So they ate cold soup and drank their tea cold? Riiiight.
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
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Power of Jesus inspires yet another shitty painter

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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The TV show "The Chosen" is just another example of Jesus myth being created and then warmly accepted by the masses. While I never watched the show, it was clear to me that you could not make a 44-hour movie (and counting) about Jesus' life without inventing stories that did not occur according to the gospels. And since I do not watch the show, I did not want to say anything and instead waited for Christians to complain.

Quote:When Jesus Goes Prime Time: Wrestling With ‘The Chosen’

One consistent concern within some in the Christian community is the way The Chosen “adds to Scripture” by fleshing out stories in the Gospels or just making up things that never happened.

As one blog put it, “Other than potentially breaking the Second Commandment not to make a graven image, the show also presents false teaching about Jesus Christ. The series does not claim to represent an accurate depiction of Jesus Christ and does claim to have artistic liberty. However, to claim this an authentic Jesus, as Dallas Jenkins does, is blasphemy. There is no authentic Jesus outside of the biblical Jesus.”

Among some objections to the first season are “Simon does not go through with being a spy and has to pay his debt. Jesus pays the debt by having the disciples catch a large number of fish. This causes Matthew to believe Jesus is the Messiah. The problem with this is none of it is in the text. It also implies we do not need the Bible to know what happened. This storytelling is a direct attack against Scripture alone for our understanding of God.”

Some are concerned that the portrayal of Jesus and the Gospels is so strong that it will start to replace the Bible for people as the strongest image in their head of who Jesus is.

After all, the Bible does warn about the dangers of depicting God and bowing before idols.

The idea of putting words in Jesus’s mouth is something that — as a writer — would fill me with fear and trembling. I remember when a book came out that was called “Jesus Calling,” which was a series of devotions written as if it was Jesus talking to you. It made me feel sick and concerned. I didn’t want my devotionals to speak as if they were Jesus, even though they were the words of man.

https://religionunplugged.com/news/2025/...the-chosen
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(June 16, 2025 at 5:37 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: I was reading "Toilers of the Sea" by Victor Hugo, where he wrote about how some of the Christian clergy in the 19th century were against the steamboat, which was then a new technology.

-and 50 years later the same nuts were beside themselves trying to figure out how to cram more guns on one to more effectively kill gods enemies, defined simply by the colors of the flags flying above either. So fervent in both their belief and aim that they managed to kill quit a few of the boats crews before ever firing a fucking shot at the other.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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While Jews spit in front of Christian churches, Muslims throw dead cows in front of Hindu temples.

Quote:The growing ‘trend’ of throwing meat pieces in front of temples, a co-ordinated campaign to desecrate sacred Hindu places?

In recent times, there has been a significant increase in cases of cow meat or remains being thrown in or near Hindu temples by Islamists. The frequency of such incidents and involvement of Islamists hints that cow slaughter and throwing of cow meat outside Hindu temples is being deliberately carried out to insult Hindus, who consider cows sacred and to incite communal unrest.

While such incidents are reported throughout the year in some part of the country or the other, the cases of deliberate throwing of cow remains near temples increase during Islamic festivals, especially Bakrid.

This pattern of throwing meat pieces in front of temples, suggest that a co-ordinated campaign orchestrated by Islamists to desecrate sacred Hindu places is at play. Here is a compilation of such cases in the recent past:




https://www.opindia.com/2025/06/the-grow...f-temples/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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In the absence of evidence for God's existence, Christians are consoling themselves with yet another fallacy.

Quote:World’s smartest man professes Christian faith on social media

On June 17, South Korean scientist YoungHoon Kim, who claims he has an IQ of 276, the highest IQ ever recorded, posted on X: “As the world’s highest IQ record holder, I believe that Jesus Christ is God, the way and the truth and the life.”

His post has received 14 million views and a quarter-million likes as of Thursday, June 19.

Kim’s claim to being the world’s highest IQ record holder has been verified by organizations such as the Giga Society, Mensa, World Memory Championships, World Memory Sports Council (in partnership with Guinness World Records), and Official World Record.

Kim, responding to the tremendous popularity of his original post, said in another X post on June 19 that he “will use this opportunity to lead many souls to God.”

“Amen. Christ is my logic,” Kim, 36, said in another response to a commenter on X.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/...cial-media

The headline should have been "Not even the smartest man in the world has the evidence for the existence of God"

Although, what makes someone the smartest man in the world is unknown, and the sources they give here are questionable.

Nevertheless, it is a logical fallacy that even Christians wouldn't follow if it was referring to something that is serious, instead of the existence of a magical man.

Let us say the world's smartest man told a Christian for no reason that he has a brain tumor and that he needs surgery right away, and that he has no other evidence for the existence of this tumor other than the fact that he is the world's smartest man. Needless to say, the Christian would likely refuse the surgery.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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MAGA pastors push for holy war with Iran 'to bring back Jesus'

Former Minnesota Representative Michele Bachmann recently appeared on a "World Prayer Network" broadcast, where she declared the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran as having biblical significance. Any president, especially Donald Trump, must back Israel, she said.

“This is a spiritual battle,” said Bachmann, who ran for president unsuccessfully in 2012 before retiring in 2016. “Israel’s at her greatest hour of need right now, every nation on Earth should thank Prime Minister [Benjamin] Netanyahu. We should all kiss the ground and be so grateful that Benjamin Netanyahu is prime minister and that he had the guts to take on this greatest evil terror state that has defined plans.

Pastor Shane Vaughn, another speaker on the broadcast and a figure in the MAGA evangelical coalition, described the Israel-Iran conflict as part of a divine timeline. “The missiles that flew on Friday the 13th were not just iron missiles but they were spiritual projectiles," he said, referring to Israel's missile strike on the Iran capital city last week.

“Netanyahu is a foreshadowing of the true lion that is getting ready to rise in the land of Israel,” Vaughn said. “That lion that is soon to come of the tribe of Judah, Jesus Christ, Yeshua the Messiah, the Bible said when he returns that his vesture will be dipped in blood. He is not coming back to play, he is coming back to bring the rod of correction over the enemies of Israel.”

Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, a pro-life activist group in Washington D.C., said on the World Prayer Network presentation that by standing with Israel attacking Iran, "we unlock the blessings of God."

“For those who say we cannot afford to support Israel, I say we cannot afford not to,” he said. “If we abandon our support for Israel, we will soon discover that the account of God’s blessing on America is overdrawn.”

https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/u...y-35431514
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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"You atheists don't understand what a sophisticated and intelligent Christian I am. I obviously don't take the Bible literally. At least not the first 11 chapters of Genesis, which are a metaphor. I certainly don't believe in the literal six days of creation from nothing. The Garden of Eden story with Adam and Eve and the talking snake, Cain and Abel, the flood, the ark, the Tower of Babel, etc. But I still believe in Sodom and Gomorrah, a woman being turned into a pillar of salt, the plagues of Egypt, the Exodus, the parting of the Red Sea, 40 years of wandering in the wilderness, God holding the Sun still in the sky, the bear assassins killing 42 children, a talking donkey, demons being cast into pigs, Jesus walking on water, the dead rising at Jesus' death, and the ascension of Jesus, who eventually got into heaven by by going through the door in the firmament, for which only he had the key."
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(June 18, 2025 at 8:27 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: The TV show "The Chosen" is just another example of Jesus myth being created and then warmly accepted by the masses. While I never watched the show, it was clear to me that you could not make a 44-hour movie (and counting) about Jesus' life without inventing stories that did not occur according to the gospels. And since I do not watch the show, I did not want to say anything and instead waited for Christians to complain.

Quote:When Jesus Goes Prime Time: Wrestling With ‘The Chosen’

One consistent concern within some in the Christian community is the way The Chosen “adds to Scripture” by fleshing out stories in the Gospels or just making up things that never happened.  

As one blog put it, “Other than potentially breaking the Second Commandment not to make a graven image, the show also presents false teaching about Jesus Christ. The series does not claim to represent an accurate depiction of Jesus Christ and does claim to have artistic liberty. However, to claim this an authentic Jesus, as Dallas Jenkins does, is blasphemy. There is no authentic Jesus outside of the biblical Jesus.”

Among some objections to the first season are “Simon does not go through with being a spy and has to pay his debt. Jesus pays the debt by having the disciples catch a large number of fish. This causes Matthew to believe Jesus is the Messiah. The problem with this is none of it is in the text. It also implies we do not need the Bible to know what happened. This storytelling is a direct attack against Scripture alone for our understanding of God.”

Some are concerned that the portrayal of Jesus and the Gospels is so strong that it will start to replace the Bible for people as the strongest image in their head of who Jesus is.

After all, the Bible does warn about the dangers of depicting God and bowing before idols.

The idea of putting words in Jesus’s mouth is something that — as a writer — would fill me with fear and trembling. I remember when a book came out that was called “Jesus Calling,” which was a series of devotions written as if it was Jesus talking to you. It made me feel sick and concerned. I didn’t want my devotionals to speak as if they were Jesus, even though they were the words of man.

https://religionunplugged.com/news/2025/...the-choseT

As "biblical Jesus" is largely fiction, and no-one owns the copyright, I can't see why it is a problem if people add new things to the story.  The gospel writers had no qualms.
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https://nypost.com/2025/06/25/lifestyle/...urchgoers/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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