Atheism is not a religion but it has to be if its goal is to prevail over theism.

Theism is innocent without clergy, without organized religion.
If , therefore, the class of the priests is eradicated, theism can harm no one.

There was no priesthood in ancient Greece. The gods were serving the political masters and not the non-existent High Priest. If it was not for the idealist philosophers who paved the way for Christianity’s theocratic priesthood, most probably the no-clergy religious system may have had spread along with the democratic political system.

Communists were proved unhistorical and naive on the subject of religion because they tried to kill the gods along with the priesthood and thus they failed completely.

The oldest recorded historical events are the Egyptian ones. There the king would prevail over his enemy, the clergy, by substituting the clergy’s gods with his own (last and most well known incident that of Akhenaten). In ancient Egypt it was the clergy that came out the victor eventually while in ancient Greece it was the king, who went one step further by keeping the gods of the clergy as his servants.

If communists had bothered to study the history of the gods (Yaroslavky’s theory is no better than Campbell’s) they would have found out that the figure men have been worshipping for 40,000 years is an anti-god (the Virgin) without being the satan.

The perfect god to turn atheism into a religion!

(January 3, 2012 at 9:28 pm)SleepingDemon Wrote: The entire middle east was centuries behind every other culture on the planet. They still are. From the middle east spawned all of the abrahamic religions, Islam, Judaism, and Christianity.

Christianity is Greek, my friend. Blame the ancient Greek philosophers not the Israelites.

As for the civilization of the Middle East... thank God, the net offers lessons of history free of charge. Try some!

(January 4, 2012 at 4:27 am)dtango Wrote: Atheism is not a religion but it has to be if its goal is to prevail over theism.

So it's been me and my Gwynnies for 40,000 years? Man, forever is a long time, huh?

Religion references insanity; atheism has always been an attempt at sanity, if I fail as an atheist, then the fire that devours the world shall be Gwynnite.
Yeah, I'm full of it today.

Houseofcanotr’s 40,000 year-old “Gwyneth of Hohle Fels”



The best and the most beautiful Gwyneth ever!



... the young Gwyneth, born in a sunny Aegean island 2000 BCE.



1000 BCE, the Virgin Gwyneth!

I definitely seen that second one before. Thanks for those.

Christians... I remember this guy, who'd go "there's always this supreme god;" tried to tell 'em it began with Goddess... fuck, no. "Creator god" is obviously an evolution in thought. The references for "where would god come from" have two origins - the need to answer the what and the why. The first is science, shit like thunder, the sun, that kind of thing; the second, death. What happened to this one? It's here but it ain't here? And now it - putrefying? Primitive cultures had intelligence and used logic... whatever happened to the good old days...

(January 3, 2012 at 7:36 pm)jason56 Wrote: Religious people like to put people in boxes. For example, Christians like to think they can put atheists in the same box as muslims.

I'm not happy about it. I want my own box.

In fact, I don't like boxes at all.

Who invented the box rule?

To a certain extent thats true of most people, my dad will argue that all germans are the same based on his meeting two of them.

But why atheists in the same box as muslims? surely we should have our own box!

You know what's good about boxes?

Say like you come over my house; and this Irish fuck has a bunch of natives over, and we just got 4 cases of brew. Gonna come in?

(January 4, 2012 at 1:34 pm)houseofcantor Wrote: I definitely seen that second one before.

Yes! She is the Venus of Willendorf, the most famous of all of them. She wears a blindfolding hood on the head which is known from other figurines too (some wear some fiber straps that end up as hand cufs), but what is more interesting is that her description (pendulous breasts and blindfolding head gear) is found in the Pyramid texts which were written close to twenty thousand years after the figurine had been made.

These sculptures depict a special kind of women that did exist, fat as shown and with hood on the head but the…”illustrious” insist on “fertility idols”!!

(January 4, 2012 at 4:27 am)dtango Wrote: Atheism is not a religion but it has to be if its goal is to prevail over theism.

Nothing can make atheism (or theism) a religion. You can have an atheistic religion though, like Raellianism. I'm sure you can do better than that one, though.

(January 4, 2012 at 6:49 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:

(January 4, 2012 at 4:27 am)dtango Wrote: Atheism is not a religion but it has to be if its goal is to prevail over theism.

Nothing can make atheism (or theism) a religion.

You mean "deism", I guess.

In fact, at all times there were either the fleshy material gods of the oral traditions or the representatives of the immaterial gods. Unfortunately, due to lack of information, this fact cannot be realized by atheists and thus there is talk and arguments about the existence of the gods/God of the clever representatives.

You can have an atheistic religion by getting rid of the priesthood.

Christians hated and did all they could to destroy ancient Greek civilization for being a civilization free of the class of the priests. But that is another fact that is hard to be realized by atheists because it is not only theists who are the victims of a culture dominated by priesthood and indifferent, guilty scholars.

The fact that so many of you are offended at the statement, "atheism is a religion," shows just how much of a religion atheism is. That statement is not an attack on atheism, nor is it an attack on religion. It's simply an observation of how individuals who have coalesced around a particular belief (or lack thereof, in the case of atheism) tend to identify with others of similar persuasions. Look how many of you have flocked to "atheist forums". Look at how so many of you deride the belief in God as stupid, or those who believe in God as such. While personally I'm sure that none of your beliefs stem from your "atheistic" leanings, you should be aware that to outgroups (in this case anyone who isn't atheist) it readily appears that they do, since you have adopted the label yourselves.

All a religion is is a group of people who think the same way about God. That is exactly what atheism is.

The funny thing is ANYONE who thinks labels are predictive of anything. They are heuristics society uses so we can point fingers more easily. Personal responsibility only has any meaning to those who ate "like" us (whatever particular ingroup you are referring to) when talking about outgroups behavior is incorrectly relegated to the group rather than the individuals which occupy positions within that group.

It's high school psychology stuff folks. Really not that hard. THOSE PEOPLE... it's all racism by another name.