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RE: Noteworthy News
September 11, 2025 at 10:06 am
(September 11, 2025 at 4:37 am)Belacqua Wrote: Yeah, I think that all the rhetoric against Trump makes some people forget that there are FAR WORSE people out there looking for power. And shooting the less bad ones are just going to give the worse ones more energy.
I doubt it.
Quote:Charlie Kirk was NOT my idea of a model thinker. But he consistently said that talking is better than violence. He was harshly criticized by the real Neo-Nazis and White Nationalists, for refusing to support a flat-out white ethnostate, for hiring non-whites, and for supporting Israel.
Supporting israel ain't exactly something that makes person moral. In fact supporting israel in light of it committing genocide means that one is scum or misinformed at best. Also he might have criticized neo-nazis (which also isn't exactly high bar to clear) but other shit he said made him a scumbag. Perhaps he shouldn't be killed but thousands die daily and no one mourns or eulogize them even when they're far better human beings.
Quote:Now all those extremists are going to say they have proof that liberals are violent murderers who will go to any length to stop free speech. And that means that his fans may well conclude that assassinations should be met with counter-assassinations. That's not going to make the country better.
Aren't they saying it already? Since when extremists need any reason to spout propaganda nonsense?
Quote:At a certain point we have to remember what happened when Sergei Kirov got killed. If Trump is as bad as people say, and he's ready to be the new Stalin, then he's been handed his Sergei Kirov moment.
Increasing the violence won't make anything better.
We also have to remember that one of theories surrounding Kirov death claims that Stalin was behind it.
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 11, 2025 at 3:21 pm
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Sure, let’s pretend Kirk wasn’t a real nazi. Even though maga fucksticks themselves recognized that he was.
As for what nutballs will say…they were going to say it anyway, and have been saying it for some time.
A nazi is dead. I’m sure his mother loved him. Good riddance.
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 11, 2025 at 3:28 pm
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(September 11, 2025 at 9:00 am)arewethereyet Wrote: (September 11, 2025 at 8:58 am)Alan V Wrote: I do plan to celebrate when Trump dies. I can't remember hating anyone in my life as much as I do that pathologically lying malignant narcissist.
I have a plan. When that fuckface was reelected, I took down the American flag from the front of my house. When he goes, the flag goes back up.
Have you considered replacing it with one of these?
https://www.amazon.com/DMSE-Historic-Bri...=8-52&th=1
It was the official flag of Britain during the the American Revolution, and thus, the flag of the Loyalists in those days. And, frankly, I don’t care what anyone thinks of King Charles, because there’s no fucking way he can run us worse than Trump is now.
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 11, 2025 at 3:47 pm
(This post was last modified: September 11, 2025 at 3:54 pm by Belacqua.)
(September 11, 2025 at 10:06 am)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: Supporting israel ain't exactly something that makes person moral. In fact supporting israel in light of it committing genocide means that one is scum or misinformed at best.
I was giving the reasons that the extreme right disliked Kirk. I'm aware that Israel should NOT be supported in any way at this time.
(The extreme right opposes Israel because they hate Jews; the regular right, as you know, will do anything Israel wants.)
Quote:We also have to remember that one of theories surrounding Kirov death claims that Stalin was behind it.
Since we don't who killed him, there are currently plenty of theories going around saying that right-wingers killed him. Either intentionally to blame the left and start a crackdown, or because his support for Israel had begun to weaken in recent weeks.
It seems likely to me that we'll never know the real reason he was killed. So the event can be used as justification for further violence by any number of groups.
I'm against escalating violence.
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 11, 2025 at 3:53 pm
(September 11, 2025 at 10:06 am)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: Supporting israel ain't exactly something that makes person moral. In fact supporting israel in light of it committing genocide means that one is scum or misinformed at best.
Or just so irrationally connected to the idea of a Jewish homeland that the actual crimes don’t matter in comparison.
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 11, 2025 at 4:05 pm
(September 11, 2025 at 3:28 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (September 11, 2025 at 9:00 am)arewethereyet Wrote: I have a plan. When that fuckface was reelected, I took down the American flag from the front of my house. When he goes, the flag goes back up.
Have you considered replacing it with one of these?
![[Image: 960px-Flag_of_the_United_Empire_Loyalists.svg.png]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Flag_of_the_United_Empire_Loyalists.svg/960px-Flag_of_the_United_Empire_Loyalists.svg.png)
https://www.amazon.com/DMSE-Historic-Bri...=8-52&th=1
It was the official flag of Britain during the the American Revolution, and thus, the flag of the Loyalists in those days. And, frankly, I don’t care what anyone thinks of King Charles, because there’s no fucking way he can run us worse than Trump is now. I want my American flag back up. That's the flag that was on my uniform back in my military days.
I know that Trump being dead isn't going to fix things but I am trying to be hopeful that it will be a start.
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 11, 2025 at 4:45 pm
I don't have a problem with the killer being a leftist. I have a problem with people on the right saying that the left killed him. They did not.
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 11, 2025 at 6:05 pm
Only one group is interested in using a dead nazis death as a pretext for more violence. The reich wing. The mad king has already said as much.
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 11, 2025 at 7:28 pm
Quote:U.S. District Judge Hernán D. Vera issued a preliminary injunction Wednesday night after determining that agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Customs and Border Protection, and the Federal Protective Service — all part of DHS — retaliated against journalists covering protests that broke out this year about the Trump administration’s immigration raids in Southern California.
Vera found that DHS agents fired tear gas and other less-lethal rounds — such as rubber bullets and pepper balls — at people who were clearly marked as journalists. The judge noted that plaintiffs brought at least 50 credible claims that agents used crowd-control weapons on journalists, observers and protesters from June 6 to July 10.
“Under the guise of protecting the public, federal agents have endangered large numbers of peaceful protesters, legal observers, and journalists — as well as the public that relies on them to hold their government accountable,” Vera wrote. “The First Amendment demands better.”
A DHS spokesman earlier said the First Amendment protects speech and peaceful assembly, “not rioting.” Although the government alleged that journalists participated in violent protests, the judge said its attorneys failed to present a “shred” of evidence to support that claim.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/...alists-la/
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RE: Noteworthy News
September 11, 2025 at 7:56 pm
"Jack-Booted Government Thugs" is a phrase that comes to mind.
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