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The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
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(October 26, 2025 at 1:07 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: To follow up on that last post, Trump's already irritating his followers with other issues as well:

Quote:President Trump is breaking from his “America First” trade agenda and feuding with some of his most loyal supporters in a fight over U.S. beef prices.

Trump has centered his economic agenda around reducing the U.S.’s reliance on cheaper foreign products and boosting domestic production of goods and food.

But the president’s plan to boost imports of Argentinian beef while urging American suppliers to lower their prices marks a sharp departure from his platform.

The dispute is threatening Trump’s long-standing support from agriculture groups and workers, who stood by the president during his first term despite the backlash they faced from his trade agenda.

“I have no idea who is telling our great president — our ‘America First’ president —  that this is a good idea,” said Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), a staunch Trump ally, in an appearance on The Tucker Carlson show this week. “Because, honestly, it’s a punch in the gut to all of our American cattle ranchers, and they are furious and rightfully so.”

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“We love you and support you — but your suggestion to buy beef from Argentina to stabilize beef prices would be an absolute betrayal to the American cattle rancher,” Wyoming-based Meriwether Farms wrote in a post on X, addressing Trump.

https://thehill.com/business/5572249-arg...ntroversy/

Lukewarm support may translate into lower GOP turnout in 2026, perhaps.

Given all of the above, I think the Trump Bubble may burst sooner rather than later.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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Except the USDA is blaming democrats, not Toddler T.
"What a little moonlight can do." ~ Billie Holiday
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Opposition to the strikes is muted, but present:

Quote:Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly (Ariz.) said he and his fellow senators were presented with evidence “that does not back up” the Trump administration’s claims that targeted boats in the Caribbean Sea are smuggling fentanyl into the U.S.

“We were presented some evidence that does not back up the story that the White House is telling to the American people,” Kelly said to Martha Raddatz on ABC News’s “This Week.”

Since early September, President Trump has authorized military strikes on boats off the coast of Venezuela and in the Pacific Ocean, resulting in the deaths of at least 43 people. The administration has alleged the vessels had fentanyl on board but has not presented public evidence of such claims.

Trump has also authorized CIA operations in Venezuela, while Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth deployed an aircraft carrier strike group to the South American coast on Friday. The moves are part of an escalation between the U.S. and Venezuela’s authoritarian leader, Nicolás Maduro, increasing tensions throughout Latin America.

They have also garnered criticism from Democrats in Congress and select Republicans. On Oct. 17, Sens. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), Tim Kaine (D-Va.) and Rand Paul (R-Ky.) backed a measure to block the strikes, after a similar resolution was voted down 51-48 by the upper chamber the week prior.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5573...-evidence/


... and:

Quote:Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.), a libertarian Republican, on Sunday said the Trump administration is carrying out “extrajudicial killings” by striking alleged drug-trafficking boats in the Caribbean Sea.

In an interview on “Fox News Sunday,” Paul said no evidence has been presented to Congress to justify the president’s military operations against vessels that officials say are transporting narcotics with the aim of reaching the U.S.

And even with a briefing, Paul said, Congress must authorize any war carried out by the U.S. military.

“A briefing is not enough to overcome the Constitution. The Constitution says that when you go to war, Congress has to vote on it,” Paul said in the interview, noting that “to be clear, we’ve got no information. I’ve been invited to no briefing.”

Paul recognized that during war, there are often “lower rules for engagement,” and “people do sometimes get killed without due process.”

“But the drug war … or the crime war has typically been something we do through law enforcement. And so far, they have alleged that these people are drug dealers. No one said their name. No one said what evidence. No one said whether they’re armed. And we’ve had no evidence presented.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5573...t-strikes/

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(October 26, 2025 at 1:57 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(October 26, 2025 at 1:07 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: To follow up on that last post, Trump's already irritating his followers with other issues as well:


https://thehill.com/business/5572249-arg...ntroversy/

Lukewarm support may translate into lower GOP turnout in 2026, perhaps.

Given all of the above, I think the Trump Bubble may burst sooner rather than later.

Boru

It doesn't really have to burst, just shrink.

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The U.S. Department of Agriculture has posted a notice on its website saying federal food aid will not go out Nov. 1, raising the stakes for families nationwide as the government shutdown drags on.

ABC
"What a little moonlight can do." ~ Billie Holiday
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"We just took another hostage."

The optics and messaging for 2026 may not pan out the way the Republicans reckon. $20B to Argentina for beef while ranchers here are hurting from tariffs, Trump wanting $200+ million in "damages" while servicemembers are forced to do their duty without a paycheck, an undeclared war in the Caribbean, I'm seeing a lot of chinks that a good campaign manager could exploit.

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Who do they think they are? Argentina?

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/...-fema-aid/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(October 27, 2025 at 3:39 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Who do they think they are? Argentina?

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/...-fema-aid/

This will not play well in 2026.

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Gosh, where's one of the Jerries when you want to pin them to the board ask them how they feel now.

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