So we can take that as a NO! eh Hitchslap??

Don't mind the fundies ....they don't really have any notion of a simple survey and will try to "save" anything that they feel offends their little book.

Weird I know

(January 20, 2012 at 6:02 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: So we can take that as a NO! eh Hitchslap??

Don't mind the fundies ....they don't really have any notion of a simple survey and will try to "save" anything that they feel offends their little book.

Weird I know

Unless there's a god that magically gets me women, pizza, weed and beer for free every night without having to ask for it, then no, those other gods can fuck off.

(January 18, 2012 at 11:46 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Part simply wasn't included in the scroll you speak of.

For someone who styles himself "Undeceived" you don't know shit from shinola, do you?

http://www.mesacc.edu/~thoqh49081/handou...canus.html

Quote:Codex Vaticanus is one of the full copies of the Bible commissioned by Constantine at the close of the Nicene Council in 325. It's current name derives from its location in the Vatican Library. This manuscript is an "uncial" -- meaning it is written in all upper-case letters (lower-case letters had not yet been developed for Greek). Note that there are no verse markings, punctuation, or spaces between words.

Note: The gospel clearly ends at 16:8 -- the final words in the far right column are "According to Mark." (Clicking the image will call up a larger version).

This is no "scroll." Your precious gospel was amended sometime after 325 by one of your heroic xtian liars for jesus.

Wake the fuck up.

Tell me how you get from "it wasn't on the earliest scroll" to "all the gospels were made up hundreds of years later." Mark 16 STILL speaks of the resurrection, as do the other gospels: Luke being written around 60 A.D. and Matthew and John not long after. They were written by eyewitnesses in their own style and from their own point of view. Each gospel includes or excludes parts the others don't include or exclude, according to which events they thought most important to write down. Not only is there absolutely zero evidence anyone copied, but logic and examination of the documents suggest they were independent. The fact stands that Christianity boomed while the eyewitnesses were still alive and before the gospels were even written. There was no room for deception or time to develop a legend.

Your date is incorrect. Mark 16:9-20 was quoted by church Fathers as early as the 2nd century (100AD-200AD), meaning the full manuscript must have been in circulation much before that. Only the two oldest manuscripts omit the verses, and Cod. B leaves an entire column blank (the only blank one in the entire volume), betraying the consciousness of the scribe that there was more, he just didn't have it. Your link is to a later, more comprehensive version of the New Testament. It was compiled long after the originals were written. Moreover, it would have been heresy to write an addition to the Bible at one of the early councils. Bishops (general area church overseers before a central authority) came from all around and told each other which books of the Bible they were using in their area. They came to a consensus, based on what they were already using, of what the New Testament canon should be. The bishops were believers, like anyone else, not deceivers who stood to gain anything. There was no authority or control in the church. Their council was not ten men in a smoke-filled room, but hundreds who cared about keeping the Bible pure. Historical documents support this. When your atheist friend tells you it was all contrived hundreds of years after the fact, don't listen to him. He's only saying what he wants to believe.

No. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

An interesting result of the who created the world debate on a poll site: the majority of Americans believe in God, while the figure is only 10% in countries like Finland and Sweden.

From your post deceived you have proven that your little book was made up 300 years after the facts.... So it seems to me. Well done.


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It's obvious that the United States of the America really need to improve their scientific education. I don't agree with the financial cuts on education like this one:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/19...11039.html

Education is very important, too much important to be cut down.

Belief and faith are not virtues, they are the poison of intellect and the death of reason.
We should never bridge gaps in our knowledge with assumptions based on what we feel is true rather than facts based on what we can prove is true. If we do there is no limit to what damage can be done to our species as a whole.

Summary: Fuck no.

Hahahahaha.

Oh. You were being serious...

No. No I don't.

Noooo