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RE: Islam true religion?
February 2, 2012 at 3:49 pm
You keep saying how you've come here to debate. Our definitions of debate appear quite different however. I suspect what you really want is for 'us' Atheists to be suddenly overwhelmed by your 'evidence' and convert to Islam on the spot.
You are not interested in debating! You want us to flatter your ego and what better way than to convert us infidels to your (twisted) way of thinking. That will not happen. You are like every other believer I've tried to reason with; stubborn, narrow minded, ignorant and unable to see what is in front of your very eyes!
The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true - Carl Sagan
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RE: Islam true religion?
February 2, 2012 at 3:54 pm
(February 2, 2012 at 12:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote: So, if "jesus" came along with ver. 2 of religious bullshit and then mohammed (FHUTA) came along....
I didn't know what FHUTA meant so I just googled it...that's pretty fucking funny.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Islam true religion?
February 2, 2012 at 4:20 pm
I wasn't sure at first, but then my mind put in the words "him up the" and I filled in the rest.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Islam true religion?
February 2, 2012 at 4:31 pm
I feel I made a very polite post to Zakir, practically begging him to speak for himself. His reply? He's waiting for me to respond to a link.
I am glad I form my opinion of muslims from the kind and decent ones I know in real life, rather than from the ones on the internet who come here to beard the atheists in their lair. I know Zakir isn't worth the effort, but for the Muslim lurkers:
Giving reading assignments is not debating. It's telling people you don't understand what you're linking to well enough to articulate it and defend it yourself.
There's a very honorable way to deal with having more posts to respond to than you can handle. Choose the post that you find most difficult in terms of the points it raises and just respond to that one. We don't care if you don't respond to insulting posts or poorly-thought out posts, but we consider it telling when someone responds to those and not to the posts that raise points which an honest debator should want to address.
Finally, if you're not ready for the fray, there's nothing wrong with reading some threads to get an idea of how discourse goes here. No law against trying the wading pool before jumping in with the sharks.
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RE: Islam true religion?
February 2, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Well...did he run off or what?
Its typical for new Muslims to last less than a few days here. They come, they dictate what our policy should be, they dictate how we should act, they dictate how we should view evidence, they squeeze their turds all over the place, then they leave without cleaning up.
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RE: Islam true religion?
February 2, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Well, like has often been said... debating with fundies is like playing chess with a pigeon.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Islam true religion?
February 2, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Thing is that I'm not even posting and ths thread is still going on.
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RE: Islam true religion?
February 2, 2012 at 6:55 pm
(February 2, 2012 at 6:40 pm)Zakir_250 Wrote: Thing is that I'm not even posting and ths thread is still going on.
So if you're not even posting what is this I'm seeing now?
The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true - Carl Sagan
