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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 1:57 pm
(February 13, 2012 at 11:11 am)Koklanas Wrote: If you dont get what you need (food , job, water, son, daughter... etc) then it means that Supreme being is saying to you 'work harder! or 'do more good deeds!', 'help the poor', 'respect your mother' etc.
I mean your dont expect to recover from any sickness of you dont take medicine. You dont expect too live long if you your self smoke, One thing leads to another!
Believe me his reward will come to you in a very mysterious way. May be ... Out of no where you may grow old until the age of 100 without stroke, or the almighty savse you from a plane crash, or you winning a lottery!...
So, you are already assuming existence of a supreme being prior to the argument from need. What is the basis of your assumption?
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 2:05 pm
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(February 13, 2012 at 1:37 pm)Koklanas Wrote: Unlike me, he could give all sorts of links as a evidence.
Don't feel bad, he couldn't either, in reality.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 2:06 pm
(February 13, 2012 at 1:37 pm)Koklanas Wrote: Zak's thinking is more advance than me. Unlike me, he could give all sorts of links as a evidence. I am only using my brain to exchange ideas with you guys.
Errrgh. Don't you just hate that?
Ass kissing.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Depends on the ass.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Ah, but is it Halal?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 2:08 pm
(February 13, 2012 at 1:57 pm)genkaus Wrote: (February 13, 2012 at 11:11 am)Koklanas Wrote: If you dont get what you need (food , job, water, son, daughter... etc) then it means that Supreme being is saying to you 'work harder! or 'do more good deeds!', 'help the poor', 'respect your mother' etc.
I mean your dont expect to recover from any sickness of you dont take medicine. You dont expect too live long if you your self smoke, One thing leads to another!
Believe me his reward will come to you in a very mysterious way. May be ... Out of no where you may grow old until the age of 100 without stroke, or the almighty savse you from a plane crash, or you winning a lottery!...
So, you are already assuming existence of a supreme being prior to the argument from need. What is the basis of your assumption?
prior to the argument from need?
I dont quite get what you mean, can you rephrase it.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 2:15 pm
(February 13, 2012 at 2:08 pm)Koklanas Wrote: (February 13, 2012 at 1:57 pm)genkaus Wrote: (February 13, 2012 at 11:11 am)Koklanas Wrote: If you dont get what you need (food , job, water, son, daughter... etc) then it means that Supreme being is saying to you 'work harder! or 'do more good deeds!', 'help the poor', 'respect your mother' etc.
I mean your dont expect to recover from any sickness of you dont take medicine. You dont expect too live long if you your self smoke, One thing leads to another!
Believe me his reward will come to you in a very mysterious way. May be ... Out of no where you may grow old until the age of 100 without stroke, or the almighty savse you from a plane crash, or you winning a lottery!...
So, you are already assuming existence of a supreme being prior to the argument from need. What is the basis of your assumption?
prior to the argument from need?
I dont quite get what you mean, can you rephrase it.
You argued that since people need justice, therefore a god must exist to provide it. But your latter argument suggests that god exists regardless of people's needs. Thus, I'm asking you to support that.
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 2:15 pm
(February 13, 2012 at 2:05 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (February 13, 2012 at 1:37 pm)Koklanas Wrote: Unlike me, he could give all sorts of links as a evidence.
Don't feel bad, he couldn't either, in reality.
Do athiest believe in ghost? just courious
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 2:16 pm
(This post was last modified: February 13, 2012 at 2:17 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Hamza Tzortzis
February 13, 2012 at 2:16 pm
(February 13, 2012 at 1:37 pm)Koklanas Wrote: Thank you. may God Almighty gives you good health.
Shouldn't that be allah.
or have asians suddenly started using that americanism. 
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