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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 3, 2012 at 12:55 am
(March 2, 2012 at 7:31 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Titus 1:12 "One of Crete’s own prophets has said it: Cretans are always liars." I think that qualifies as a contradiction.
In what way? This is a testimony from a prophet from Crete because thats what he saw. This testimony is used in this chapter to illustrate a point that many will claim to be believers but are liers.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 3, 2012 at 8:04 am
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 3, 2012 at 9:49 am
It's not that they want to remain in ignorance, they just can't bear not knowing so they make stuff up.
I did look about a bit, the kudos aren't visible, a good thing I think. 
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 3, 2012 at 11:30 am
(March 3, 2012 at 12:55 am)chipan Wrote: In what way? This is a testimony from a prophet from Crete because thats what he saw. This testimony is used in this chapter to illustrate a point that many will claim to be believers but are liers.
:Stares directly at Chip:
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 3, 2012 at 12:56 pm
(March 3, 2012 at 12:55 am)chipan Wrote: (March 2, 2012 at 7:31 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Titus 1:12 "One of Crete’s own prophets has said it: Cretans are always liars." I think that qualifies as a contradiction.
In what way? This is a testimony from a prophet from Crete because thats what he saw. This testimony is used in this chapter to illustrate a point that many will claim to be believers but are liers.
The Cretan quote is a paradox, chip. It is like saying "This statement is not true."
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 3, 2012 at 1:28 pm
(This post was last modified: March 3, 2012 at 1:28 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
You're barking up the wrong tree Chad. For Chip, something being completely untrue can only be further proof of how true it is (but only if he already believed that it was true in the first place).
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 3, 2012 at 10:21 pm
(This post was last modified: March 3, 2012 at 10:33 pm by chi pan.)
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 3, 2012 at 11:17 pm
You can read the minds of the dead? Convenient, because I am forced to rely on little more than their words.
Evidence?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 4, 2012 at 1:44 am
(This post was last modified: March 4, 2012 at 1:49 am by chi pan.)
(March 3, 2012 at 11:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You can read the minds of the dead? Convenient, because I am forced to rely on little more than their words.
Evidence?
Obviously you lack in empathy. Read the context. This quote is used to illustrate the point that many will claim to be righteous but they are liers. We are not to judge people by their words, but by their fruit. This quote according to the context is not meant to be a stastical accurate illustration, but to contain a message of advice.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem
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RE: Whats even attractive about Christianity anyway that people want to stay in ignorance
March 4, 2012 at 2:14 am
(March 4, 2012 at 1:44 am)chipan Wrote: (March 3, 2012 at 11:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You can read the minds of the dead? Convenient, because I am forced to rely on little more than their words.
Evidence?
Obviously you lack in empathy. Read the context. This quote is used to illustrate the point that many will claim to be righteous but they are liers. We are not to judge people by their words, but by their fruit. This quote according to the context is not meant to be a stastical accurate illustration, but to contain a message of advice.
Assuming that the bible was written to make sense, that could be so. Then again, that's sort of what is in question around here.
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